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#4458 of 5001 Disco worth & why "replaced."
Feb 04, 2006 (7:04 pm)
This pertains to Messages 4250 & 4455.
I have a 2003 Discovery SE with 33,000 miles on it. Blue book is nowhere near $28,000, US dollars. I'd be lucky to get $18,000 on a trade-in, I believe. I agree with other comment that $28,000 is way too much to pay, regardless of model year.
The Disco was much in need of an upgrade in 2003-2004. The tech design was getting very long in the tooth. BMW did some things to make the 2003 and 2004 models "better" than their predecessors before Ford purchased Land Rover.
Even so, just too much was needed to make the "Disco" competitive. So, for 2005 Land Rover, now owned by Ford, did a complete redo. I can't imagine that there are very many parts, if any, that transferred over from the 1004 Disco to the 2005 LR3. Interestingly enough, though, in other countries the LR3 is still called the Disco.
The LR3 is a much heavier vehicle. It has a completely different, and much more powerful V-8 engine, based on the Jaguar V-8. The old Disco 4.6 liter was based on a very old Buick V-8 design. There are a host of technical innovations in the LR3. Seating is different, and the back seats can fold flat. I have heard that it is equally good off-road, if not better, than the old Disco, but have no first hand experience with that.
Reading through comments on the LR3 page, one hears about the smoothness of the highway ride, as well as the handling on-road, something for which the Disco was never famous.
That aside, a reading of the LR3 forums will reveal many, many first year "problems." One can never tell just from anecdotal information just how much weight to put on those comments, but contrast the problems recounted on the LR3 forum with the lack of negative comments on such a humble new intro as the Ford Freestyle.
As far as reliability goes, my Discovery, a 2003 with 33,000 miles on it, has had but one mechanical problem. A wiring harness frayed, causing the check engine light to go on. A quick trip to the dealer fixed it within an hour, along with a free wash and vacuum. Oh, and there was one recall, fixed with equal speed by my dealer, LR Denver East.
I've run my Disco over Colorado and Montana dirt and rock mountain passes, towed a 4,500 lb. trailer over 11,000 foot mountain passes, and plowed through a good part of the 33 inch snow storm that hit the Denver area back in April(?) of 2003. I've averaged over 15.5 mpg for the 33K, which includes at least 4,000 miles of 10-11 mpg towing the trailer. My particular Disco is one tough truck.
If you can buy one that does as well as mine has done, and get it for the right price, you will have one beautiful vehicle. When they get the kinks worked out of the LR3, it, too, will be one tough truck. Unfortunately, all the new stuff they put in it adds about $8,000 to 10,000 to the MSRP, which puts it out of my price range.
If you decide to buy, go find a muddy back road up a mountain and enjoy!
#4459 of 5001 Are they as bad as they say
Feb 08, 2006 (9:27 pm)
I am thinking of getting a 2002 Diso with about 50K miles, I have read some real bad things about them. I also see that owners are in love with the car. any advice would be great
#4460 of 5001 Rear View Mirror
Feb 11, 2006 (12:49 pm)
I have a 96' disco that recently failed inspection because my rear view mirror has tarnished. Does anyone know a cheap fix for this without having to replace the whole mirror? It looks as if some sort of seal broke around the edges. If not, how difficult is it to replace this unit?
#4461 of 5001 Re: Rear View Mirror [andreal]
Feb 17, 2006 (8:20 pm)
Unfortunately the only fix is to replace the mirror. No way around it, unless you can register it in a state that doesn't require a safety check. As far as the others that have posted here lately. I have a '96 disco I with 126,000 miles. I have taken it from Seattle to Jacksonville, FL over the cascades and the rockies, pulling a 4,000 lb trailer. I use it regularly to tow my 27 foot, 6,000 lb boat and smile when people stare at me and say "No way you pull that boat with that teeny little Land Rover." Then I watch them have trouble hauling out theirs with their Silverados and F-150's and offer to help. I will own forever. As far as reliability, yeah, it has it's quirks, but has never left me stranded, and if you ALWAYS make sure you do the maintenance, and find a good mechanic for what you can't do, you should have no problems. Don't always rely on the dealers. I found a guy who used to work for LR and quit when they tried to make him cross-train to Jaguar. Now he opened his own LR shop and doesn't charge $95 an hour.
Feb 18, 2006 (11:58 am)
I was a little bit reluctant to purchase a Disco with 43,000 miles on it but I did it. Primarily because it was dealer certified. Anyway it is an 04 Discovery S with the dual sunroofs. The only thing bad about the S in my opinion is the Duragrain seats (not real leather). Other then that it has everything that I need. Also, it is difficult to find 04's here in Colorado. I was able to get it for 21,900. I thought that it was a fair price as the vehicle looks basically new. It came off a 2 year lease (according to carfax). The previous owner apparently did some serious driving in the 2 years of ownership. If anybody has any feedback on price let me know.
#4463 of 5001 Re: New Owner [brettp]
Feb 21, 2006 (9:37 pm)
Congratulations on your "new" used S Disco. Based on what I have seen in books colored blue, and perhaps on Edmunds, as well, you paid some $1,500 under what a retail dealer might expect to charge. You also have 7,000 left on the warranty, and the dealer certification.
I have a 2003 se, and love it. I would not expect to get anywhere near $20,000 on a trade-in to a dealer, but they never give anything near retail price on a trade-in. Mine has 33,000 miles on it.
The 2003 & 2004 were the only Discos that have the improved engine, formerly in the Range Rover. They also have the benefit of the several years of ownership by BMW before Landrover was sold to Ford.
My landrover's quality has been excellent over the three years I have owned it, as has been the service by Landrover Denver East, where I bought it.
Another recent post describes the towing prowess of the Disco, and I can also attest to that, as we tow a 4,500 lb. RV trailer all over the mountains of Colorado, Wyoming and Montana. Yes, it does slow down going up hills, but it always makes it through.
I think you will enjoy your truck and I would not worry about not having leather seats. Enjoy it.
#4464 of 5001 Re: New Owner [lightcahill]
Feb 22, 2006 (9:01 pm)
Thanks for the information. Overall I am really enjoying this truck and I actually get excited about driving to work in it. The service piece is good information ecspecially when you consider that I purchased the truck at Land Rover Denver East and plan on servicing it there. What a coincidence that is. So far I have had an excellent experience there. If you have any advice as to a particular service person that I should contact there (if any one is more preferable then the others) then let me know. Also, I did shop around at Flatirons and Denver South and they did not come anywhere close to the deal that I got at Denver East. I will keep in touch.
#4465 of 5001 Re: New Owner [brettp]
Feb 23, 2006 (11:03 pm)
Wow! That is a coincidence. We were just at LR Denver East yesterday to have my first "failure" fixed under warranty. The rear windshield wiper froze to the rear window when we were up at Blackhawk last week. I turned the wiper on to clear the window, not realizing it was frozen. Darn windshield wiper motor was so powerful that it broke the blade arm right off! They fixed it while I waited - no charge.
There are two service staff there. We are not supposed to name names on this forum, but both are excellent. There are two desks, one behind the other on the left as you go in. T sits in the front desk. She is great. D sits at the back desk. He is great. Can't go wrong with either one, and they both know the Disco by heart.
While waiting for the fix (and they always clean the car, inside and out) my spouse and I drooled over the new LR3. Too bad they are so expensive.
Hey, we may run into each other some day going over Georgia or Mosquito Pass - but not in the winter, thanks.
#4466 of 5001 Re: New Owner [lightcahill]
Feb 24, 2006 (10:46 pm)
Thanks for the information. As I am new to the board (and to ownership) I am not totally up on the rules. I believe that you provided me with enough info to get going though. The LR3 is an awesome vehicle. They had 2 that I actually looked at in the used vehicle section. The sales guy actually made a huge push at selling me one. It was a 05 with like 5,000 miles on it. I told him that it was a little out of my price range at $36,000. While I think that it is a decent price for one that is nearly new I thought that the 04' Disco at $21,900 was more to my liking. I am thinking that eventually that the LR3s will also be available to the point that you will be able to find 2 and 3 year old return lease vehicles in the mid 20's. Anyway, you are more likely to bump into me at Winter Park in the winter and Blackhawk in the summer (It looks like Blackhawk in the summer will be much easier on my rear windshield wiper). Thanks again, and I will be sure to keep in touch on this board.
#4467 of 5001 Re: ABS, TC, HD lights on + grief from dealer in Australia [pbrover]
Feb 25, 2006 (12:06 am)
My earlier message on this was number 4394 and I have missed some of the disucssion in between. However, I can report that thanks to the advice from this forum, I was able to go back to my dealer and insist that they check out the ABS Modulator. This was indeed the problem (they had always said my brakes needed replacing). They replaced the ABS modulator which had an internalcommunication fault under warranty. They also replaces a faulty ACE ECU which also had an internal communciation fault. This was done 3 weeks ago and I have had no recurrence of the problem. The dealer was most resistant to the suggestion that the ABS Modulator was at fault but I put the whole history in writing and they were obliged to investigate. Thanks to all those who reponded.