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#4135 of 5002 Re: Towing with 2004 Land Rover Discovery? [matthewd]
Apr 28, 2005 (7:16 pm)
Re towing. We just purchased a 19 foot Trail-Lite Cruiser (c19), which weighs about 3,900 lbs. empty. We pulled it home on Tuesday, a distance of about 40 miles. We have a 2003 Disco SE, 5 seater. The trailer installed a nice hitch and anti-sway bar setup.
The Disco pulled the trailer about as you might expect. Not fast, but not straining. On Rt. 70 around Denver we got it up to 55-60, which is fast as I will tow. On the back roads closer to our house we could not go that fast, but there were more hills. Count on it shifting down to 3rd on any kind of a hill, at least with this trailer. Once in 3rd, though, it has the ability to maintain speed, and then even to pick up a bit.
I was very worried about the short 100 inch wheelbase, so we kept the trailer short, at 19 feet. I noticed no undue swaying or tail wagging the disco effect, even when we got into moderate cross winds closer to home.
The true test for us will come when we load the trailer up with 30 gallons of water, food, clothes, fishing gear, etc., and head up in the Rockies. We live at about 6,100 feet, and the reduced power of any car is noticable vs. running the same car down near sea level. Towing capacity is likewise reduced.
I will post more about our towing experience when we have taken it on its shakedown voyage up in the mountains. You probably won't want to hold off your buying decision that long, though. We are itching to get going, but we have to wait until tonight's snow storm goes away. My experience so far says that the Disco can do it.
Pete (Light Cahill).
#4136 of 5002 Re: Alternator / Stuck in Low [wornoutsdii]
Apr 29, 2005 (6:59 pm)
I had the exact same problem 4 times. (M+S flashing, tranny won't shift up, etc.). Each and every time I had the vehicle towed to Land Rover Encino. Each and every time they put a new battery (mine LR was a 02 Disco with 22K miles, so it was under warranty). So, the "new battery" trick seems to work as a temporary solution... but it DOES NOT solve the problem. When the same thing happened the 5th time, I took the battery out, waited a couple of hours, put the same battery in (it was only 2 weeks old), and drove to an Infiniti dealer; I traded the unreliable Disco for a much more reliable vehicle (our second car is a 2000 QX4 with 102K miles and never had a problem; besides the service is EXCELLENT).
Good luck with your Disco. Whatever you do, stay away from Land Rover dealers. They really don't know what the problem is so they can't fix it. They only solve it temporarily to get you out of their service floor after collecting some of your money. I even noticed that one of the replies to your message says that they had to put some Audi part to fix the problem!
#4137 of 5002 Re: Alternator / Stuck in Low [gunnarp]
Apr 29, 2005 (7:06 pm)
I had the opposite experience. I owned a 2003 G35 which was constantly in the shop for recalls and a major electrical failure, brake pad and rotor problems etc.
The 2004 Disco, on the other hand, has had one minor radio problem in the six months Ive owned it. The dealer is ten times nicer than the Infiniti dealer, the waiting room is better, even the loaners are better.
I have no illusions that in time the Disco will have its share of problems, and I will bitch loudly! But at this point the Disco has been way more reliable than the Infiniti (knock on wood).
At my first service this week they did do a recall on upgrading the computer software. I do not know what it was for, but I swear the damn things drives better.
#4138 of 5002 Re: Buy and extended warranty? [kkone]
Apr 29, 2005 (7:12 pm)
Do yourself a favor and buy the warranty,... or don't buy the car. I spend over $4K in the first 2 years of ownership on parts and labor that, based on Land Rover Encino, where not covered under my bumper-to-bumper. These are very nice looking cars, but not the best quality and most reliable. You will be happy you had an extended warranty when electrical problems (like the many mentioned in this thread) leave you stranded and you have no option than to go to a dealer. That said, make sure your extended warranty covers: ALL electrical components (trust me on this one), engine, transmission, transfer case, and the mechanical portions of most body parts (for instance, door hinges and lock mechanisms)
#4139 of 5002 Re: Alternator / Stuck in Low [peeete]
Apr 29, 2005 (7:24 pm)
Hey, that's great! I wish I had half the luck with my Land Rover as I have with our 00 QX4. We are also very happy with the 04 FX and my brother has an 03 G. None of the cars ever had any problems. None!
The M+S flashing lights is just one of the many probelsm we had with the LR. So I guess that the dealers are the ones that really make a difference. If our LR dealer would have provided loaners like our Infiniti and your LR dealer do, solved each problem when first reported (or proactively), and did not charge us an arm and a leg for each oil change and "checkup", we probably would have kept the car. Before I got rid of the LR we had been on vacation for an extended period of time and the car was parked at the airport. Since then, and for the next 4 months, the vehicle would be at the dealer every Monday and I will get it back every Wed. or Thu.
Maybe LRNA (which I have written numerous letters to and got no answer to this day) learned about some defects with the older models and finally paid attention to the reviews their were getting (the 03 Consumer Satisfaction Index for Land Rover was below Kia, Hyndai, and other very inexpensive vehicles), got their act together and made the 04 Disco a better vehicle... and the new owners happier owners. Whatever they did, it must be working because you sound very satisfied with the car. Actually, that would make sense; they have to take care of you if they want to stay in business and sell you a new LR3 a few years from now.
Again, I really wish I had the experience you do, not only because I bought that car solely based on what I wanted at the time; it was also against my wife's advise... so I am still hearing about it (she calls is the "Junk Rover - The Vehicle Most Troubled")
Good luck with your 04.
#4140 of 5002 Still loving my '96
Apr 29, 2005 (11:43 pm)
I just changed the oil in my '96 SI Disco today and took her offroad. She still has the most sensitive suspension and throttle/braking control of any 4WD I've driven. I buried her in snow this winter 100 times, froze her on innumerable camping trips at -20 to -30F and I finally turned over 95,000 miles. In the last year I have replaced a set of brake pads, oil changes, and the water pump. That's all. Over the last 5 years I have done the same... the only (ONLY) thing that's died has been the water pump. And I use her hard offroad ALL THE TIME.
This has been by far the most reliable and strongest vehicle I've ever owned. That includes owning 13 Hondas.
Maybe you should consider an older / simpler model? (psst: mine's not for sale)
#4141 of 5002 Re: Alternator / Stuck in Low [gunnarp]
Apr 30, 2005 (2:34 am)
Sorry you had such bad luck and service with your Disco. My 2000 DII has had zero problems. No eletrical problems. She has never failed to start. Very reliable. Only routine maintenance for 53,000 uneventful miles. Lucky? Maybe I just bought a good one.
May 02, 2005 (8:27 am)
You should look back a few years in this forum where we used to joke about "Monday cars". We had a good laugh over that, the idea that the boys hand-building our trucks were perhaps hungover on Monday after a big party weekend. We decided that a Wednesday truck was the best of all.
#4143 of 5002 99 Discovery S1 SD
May 04, 2005 (1:46 pm)
This 99 Disco has 98000 miles and runs like a champ. I picked it up from a used car lot about 3000 miles ago and have enjoyed the hell out of it. I figured out the clunk I was getting when shifting into reverse, problem solved by draining and filling the transfer case oil. Twice in the last three days it has turned over,hesitated,and stalled out. Then it will turn over but not start at all. Within fifteen or twenty minutes it turns over and starts normally and runs great. I'm looking at the fuses, fuel pump relay, fuel filter and fuel pump. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
#4144 of 5002 Re: 99 Discovery S1 SD [climatic]
May 04, 2005 (5:07 pm)
I have a 96 Disco that recently went through the same problem, but a little more aggravated. The problem was in the Multi-Function Unit (MFU) that controls pretty much everything that is not controlled by the ECU. Not too expensive a part, but it was for me since I had to replace my Alternator at the same time. Yours being a 99 might be different if it's a Disco II. Mine is a Disco I with 108 K miles.