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Land Rover Discovery, Land Rover Discovery Series II, Audio, Entertainment System, Navigation System, Performance Mods, SUV
#3535 of 5002 2003 Discovery "Shudder" (or "flutter)
Dec 08, 2003 (9:26 am)
i have also had STOPGO's problem... Land Rover dealership replaced my transmission & drive train at 6K miles... no noticeable difference... it happens when i am going up a slight incline between 30 & 40 MPH... very frustrating for a 40K$ vehicle...!!!
from talking with the dealer folks: Land Rover is aware of this (they have had quite a few 2003 Discos brought in with same complaint & there have been no service announcements addressing it!)...
i think it is a transmission problem & perhaps FORD is hoping everyone will go away & accept this crap...
if anyone figures out what the problem is -or- wants to go after FORD/Land Rover with formal complaint: please let me know (ceitelus.ibm.com)...
Dec 08, 2003 (9:52 pm)
I live in L.A. and I have a 2000(April) DiscoII that I'm trying to sell. It has 52k miles on it. It has dual sunrf, winter package, ACE, 6cd changer, silver/dark gray leather. It's extremely clean inside and out. And hasn't had any major problems.
What's a realistic price I should expect for it. I've done the Edmunds and KBB value check and according to those reports I can get about 20-22k for it, but I just wanted to know if anybody has actual experience buying or selling this car.
#3537 of 5002 Ceitel, the "Shudder" problem saga....
Dec 09, 2003 (6:19 am)
Mine has been doing it since I picked it up. About a month ago, the dealership replaced the Mass Airflow Sensor to combat the problem. Since then, I have experienced the shudder only two times and those were in the two days following the change. SO, at least for now I am thinking/hoping that that may have been the culprit. However, due to the randomness of the issue I still have my doubts.
My warrantly expires in 13K miles and because of this issue I am seriously considering purchasing an extension. I will not declare it to be fixed until one full year passes without incident. I would like to see it function as expected for as long as it did not funtion as expected and I want to see it work through all seasons as I have always had a feeling that the weather conditions played a part in the failures.
Did your trucks computer contain any failure logs from your "shudders"? Mine did not which is why they have not repalced the transmission at this point. I am still waiting to hear from LRNA on this issue because since they replaced the Air Flow sensor it happened two times. IT is still very much an open issue to me.
Good luck with yours!
#3538 of 5002 Bye, bye Disco II, Hello G wagon...
Dec 09, 2003 (10:31 am)
I want to say good bye to all my LR friends for the past 5 years of "on-line friendship". I just traded my perfect 00 DII for a new Mercedes-Benz G500 (Gelaendewagen), my dream for about 24 years, but I already dearly miss my Discovery which was the best vehicle I've ever owned. If this Benz is half the car the DII was, I'll be happy.
The G does NOT have the comfort, ride, storage capacity, or "quirkiness" of the LR which make that vehicle so special. I'm almost certain that I'll be back to LR within 2 years, and I've only had the G two weeks. I should have kept the Rover as well.
On the other hand, the G is the best built, strongest, and most off-road capable vehicle available, period. It makes the LR, or any other 4x4 look like a tin can. And I've yet to find a place I can not go where my buddies in Hummers can (and I mean the original, forget the H2). The G will even go where Hummers get hung-up (at least until they get true diff locks).
Happy Rovering to you all, and merry Christmas..
#3539 of 5002 RKoesler
Dec 09, 2003 (12:35 pm)
It's been a hoot, sir and we'll be watching for your return! Thanks for all your input over the years!
You know, you could always buy an SI Disco as a dinghy for that "G" and have the best of both worlds. Slap some lockers on that bad boy and take your wife to town in comfort.
I personally would LOVE to see some action shots of you using that G500 as it was designed. Especially if they include a turtled Hummer.
Dec 09, 2003 (12:40 pm)
I promised a follow-up from last weekend's campout. Sorry!
It only got to -5F so I can't beat my chest and talk about the Disco sparking right to life at minus-bazillion degrees. But we got into some nice deep snow and she just kept churning. I wanted to go down this one long trail in bumper deep snow but the other two trucks didn't want to chance it... a new Durango pickup and an early fullsize Blazer. So we parked and loaded up the sleds and hauled gear. We set up a nice camp in knee deep powder snow over a nice base, and built shelters. The boys had a great time and on the return trip, as always she lit right up and away we went... iced up on the inside from the humidity of sweaty scouts, but warm and mobile.
#3541 of 5002 Speaking of snow
Dec 10, 2003 (10:49 am)
This past weekend, many of us New Englanders got hit with a few feet of snow. At just about the peak of the storm, and before the plows came around, I packed my family in the disco and headed out to what is usually the busiest restaurant in town. Low and behold, we were the only customers they had up to that point. There is just something special about New England, snow storms and a Land Rover!
Dec 10, 2003 (2:35 pm)
Looks very clean for a 99 MY. Has had the ABS modulator replaced.
Dec 10, 2003 (2:45 pm)
Sorry to hear about your problem. Has the retailer had one of the Field Service Engineers or Aftersales Market Managers in to check your vehicle out? While I can understand your frustration, I can assure you that Land Rover North America works very hard to identify issues and correct them. Sometimes this takes a while because the issue has to be duplicated, then narrowed down to a particular cause, then engineering has to develop a repair procedure and validate that it works. Sometimes there can be multiple causes for the same perceived symptoms. This often involves time consuming testing to resolve. Ford has done nothing to prevent Land Rover from attempting to satisfy it's customers, so this is definetly not a Ford related issue.
#3544 of 5002 Shudder and Fludder...
Dec 11, 2003 (7:23 am)
I apologize, and this may have already been discussed in detail, but would someone be so kind as to recap what the shudder problem was? I have a 99 DII with 41k and I am getting hesitation when trying to merge into traffic (30 - 70 MPH). Seems to be happening more prevalent when the motor is in the higher RPMS. Thinking perhaps the MAF.. I have a K&N air filter maybe too much air turbulance is confusing the computer?? Seems as if the the "computer" is telling the tranny to shift but the tranny resists? Almost as if it it slipping.. Still under warranty. Any suggestions or similar experiences would be well appreciated. Thanks in advance.