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#2002 of 5001 2000 Discovery II purchase
Jun 03, 2002 (5:18 am)
My wife is demanding a Discovery and I have an auto broker looking for a 2000. I'd appreciate any suggestions with respect to the options to look for. For example, should I get one with ACE? Also, if I find one with 30,000 miles, I've identified an extended warranty, full coverage, for $2,300 (4 years & 100,000). Since any warranty companies won't cover Land Rovers I assume I should jump on the extended coverage?
Jun 03, 2002 (7:47 am)
I have a 2000 DII without ACE and the cornering is outstanding compared with other SUVs that I test drove. I opted to not have my rig equipped without all the bells and whistles since the less complicated the less to go wrong.
Try Hal Moses at 1-800-933-9190 for a extended warranty quote.
#2004 of 5001 2002 Discovery II
Jun 03, 2002 (12:38 pm)
Just bought a 2002 Discovery. Love the look but a couple of questions. Is it normal to hear a clicking noise each time the gas pedal is depressed? The service person at the dealership says yes. Is it normal to hear a low whining noise from the engine when the car is running that gets louder as the car goes faster? The service person says its the transfer box and that some are louder than others. He said it can be replaced but it won't necessarily help. Finally, I am hearing a lot of wind noise coming in from the front driver's side near the dashboard. Is this normal? The service person says that they can try and work on this but it might only get worse. I would like to know if others have had these problems. I do not remember experiencing any of these noises during the numerous test drives I took in other Discoveries when making my decision. I am a little disappointed not so much in the problems themselves but in the responses I have gotten from the dealership. Also something that would be funny if not for the these other problems. When my wife picked up the truck, it had bahama beige interior with lightstone headrests which no one at the dealership noticed.
#2005 of 5001 Claybuster
Jun 03, 2002 (12:39 pm)
Sorry for the long pause... I've been out using my Disco like she's meant to be used (looking around and whistling.)
I drive mine in '3' all the time in town, speeds up to around 50mph. Surprisingly, it doesn't affect the mileage much; these have "learning" computers and they soon adapt to that. You'll have much better power and throttle response.
If you have the luxury of getting your OBDII reset by the factory laptop, notice how sharp your ignition timing is when you pick her up; she'll be right on the edge of pinging under throttle. If you don't burn top grade fuel you'll soon start pinging and if that happens for long the ECU backs off the timing and the party is over... you're down quite a lot of power. I don't believe the ECU will step the timing forward again once it backs it off. I believe this is the culprit behind many complaints of these engines feeling sluggish. When they're tuned sharp, they just rip and tear to redline.
I have been told by many a Rover mechanic these engines thrive on frequent hard use. Every time I fill up I drive her HARD up thru the gears, I find opportunities to climb hard, stuff like that. But I make sure my engine is good and hot before I do. No sense running her hard when the oil is sluggish!
Shifting to produce 1400 rpms at 40mph sounds right... no computer problem there. Remember these are luxury trucks and people want minimal noise, vibration and harshness for something this expensive. It IS a clever transmission though, and that cat will try to make you happy if you squeeze her tail. But sometimes we ask for more than the standard offering, and that's where '3' comes to play.
Bottom line: buy GOOD fuel, keep your lubes very fresh (all of them from front to back) and drive her hard once a week. She'll adapt to your style in a month or so, and will just get better with time.
Best regards, -Bob
#2006 of 5001 Wheel Choice
Jun 03, 2002 (11:26 pm)
I got a e-mail from Land Rover about the new website supporting the 2003 Disco. They mentioned that there will be a choice of wheels. Is this true? When will the 2003's hit the sales floor and do you expect price increases over the 2002 models?
#2007 of 5001 Discovery Series 2 Problems
Jun 03, 2002 (11:43 pm)
I own a 99 S2 Discovery and have had several problems with it. The most recent was corrosion of the radiator which meant it required replacing.
I am concerned that this may mean there is some corrosion in the block and head, given they are both alloy.
Has anybody heard of this block having corrosion problems at all? I would be grateful for any feedback.
#2008 of 5001 My afternoon at the Land Rover Driving School
Jun 04, 2002 (7:01 am)
I received a fabulous gift certificate from my wife for Christmas this year, 3 hours of instruction and trail ride at the Land Rover Off road Driving School in Manchester, VT. I'd been waiting until decent weather to go and this Sunday was it.
My wife and buddy Jack road along, we were met by my instructor, Greg Nicholas who walked us around the 2002 Discovery that we'd be driving. They keep their trucks stock except for a small winch bumper carrying a Warn9000. Stock suspension, stock tires... I was surprised. They only keep their vehicles for 5k miles, and then they get sold to dealerships as demos. Despite their hard use, they are quite sought after since they are impeccably maintained and all the lovely 4x4 bits get a regular workout.
We started out with Greg driving through the terrain of the school's private 4x4 playground. He explained about approach, breakover, and departure angles, demonstrated proper left-foot breaking, and showed how the various electronic traction controls and hill decent control works. The motto was "Slow as possible, Fast as necessary."
I think it is too bad that the Discovery has such a Soccer-mom rep because these trucks are ridiculously capable off road. They have a course set up with huge woopdeedoos, deep holes and off setting hills that put us in teeter-totter positions with the pass-side front and drivers-side rear wheels hanging in mid air with the other wheels on top of hills. There were also off camber side hills that have you staring straight down at the ground. Despite being a tall, narrow vehicle, the Discovery carries 80% of its weight below the midline of the door. This allows for a safe, but panty-twisting 30+ degrees of side-hill travel. Yikes! My wife said that this was the only time she was actually scared.
Then we went on to some hill-climbs. These really let the traction control shine… staying steady on the throttle and letting the truck just pull you up an over. Amazing!
Hill decent control is freaky. You put the truck into 4Low, and first gear, push the button, use some left foot breaking to ease over the crest, then take your feet off the pedals…. All you see is sky.. sky.. sky… then finally you are pointed 45° down the hill and weeeeeeeee…. The traction control uses the ABS and gearing to give you a slow, steady decent that is free of skidding and let's you steer the whole way. It's actually a bit faster then you initially feel comfortable with, but once you learn to trust the system, it is amazingly efficient.
We talked a lot about the advantages of the newer traction controls (99.5+ Discos) over the older Discos with locking center differential. He feels it is 6 of 1, half dozen of the other. Both do their jobs, and both will have scenarios where they will work better or worse then the other. He actually prefers the older, Series 1 Discos(94-98.5) for their mechanical simplicity, tidier dimensions, and larger aftermarket. He said the newer machines are FAT better put together and MUCH better on-road.
For our trail ride we headed to a local mountain trail to tackle a rockslide. This was a steep trail with many rock ledges along the way. Pinpoint tire placement and steady momentum would be necessary to avoid using the ledges in front as wheel chocks, and stopping our accent. Due to the narrowness of the trail, sidestepping the back end could also get us good and wedged in. Greg spotted me up, but 1 big bump caused me to back off the throttle and we were stuck. Lot's of slight back and forth didn't help and we had to winch over the biggest ledge. I wish I'd made it, but it was cool to learn how to properly use a winch.
Overall, it was a great afternoon. It showed me what a properly driven vehicle can do, even when stock. It gave me solid knowledge that I can use when I get my own 4x4, whatever it may be, and I gained even more respect for the British marquee that so vexes me.
I have about 40 minutes of video as a keepsake and a roll of film. I'll post some pictures when I get them developed. I'm off to cruise the eBay Land Rover pages.
A few other random LR notes from Greg…
• The Freelander is a hoot to drive ON-road, almost like a rally car, but can't handle the sort of heavy terrain that the Discovery and Range Rover does. He says you'd be surprised by where you CAN get it though.
• He just got back from CA and driving the new Range Rover and it is amazing. They are doing a big launch of it at the school and I'm hoping to get invited.
• His personal vehicles? Two Jeep Wranglers, based on cost and ability, nothing comes close. He's actually looking for a Series 1 Disco now that his newest Jeep is paid off.
• He started offroading in the Army, and has been doing it ever since. Teaching and guiding at the School is his full-time job. I meant to ask him how to get a gig like that but never did.
• He said most people are nice, but they get some real stinkers at the school too. He hates it when people don't listen and he even had one guy call him "Khaki-boy" once. He seemed happy to be out with just some "regular" folks.
Jun 04, 2002 (8:32 pm)
If I remember right I think he said the 2003 Disco should come out shortly after the new RR. June/July I guess. He said it was going to be "greatly" improved. Hope this helps.
Jun 05, 2002 (4:38 pm)
I will be getting an SUV summer 03 for my wife and we really like the Discovery but sine I am buying and this is no a cheap car, I want it to last and so my question is whether the 03 model will be greatly changing in the next 4 years, meaning since the 03 model is only slightly different from the 02 model (engine and lights) I do no want to have the 03 model and have totally redesigned as the Range is being redesigned for 2003, also what will be the HP on the 4.6 engine? THANK YOU.
Jun 05, 2002 (4:47 pm)
Specs for 4.6 are:
217 hp 4,750 rpm
300 lb-ft 2,600 rpm
the center diff lock is now back
I think the Series lll are due for 2005 and it's a complete redesign.