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4851 messages, Last post on Dec 02, 2009 at 5:01 PM
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I just recently had my 2001 BMW 330ci with a premium and Luxury package stolen (11 days ago) and not recovered as of yet. Looks like I need to replace. I fell in love with the Disco II after I bought mine two years ago, so here I am again. I have a few questions and a few responses. Q1: What is the reliability factor with this vehicle? I have read a lot of stuff here about ACE and the brakes – both a repetitive problems in the comments above. What is the deal? I need a 5-year+ owner to start talking or someone that beats their DII to spill it. I don’t want to here about “I love it its great at 700 miles”, “I just picked mine up and won’t drive anything else”. I need long hall drives to come forward. Answers to above: What is the price of the 2003? – I have two requests that are out now and have not gotten them back yet but will pass them on when I do. I heard from one dealer that the new engine will have better mileage then the Range (due to less weight in the DII) and the price will be about $1000 more. In addition to the above mentioned, I have been heavily researching the Discovery II and found a lot to share with other Disco II owners and future 03 owners. Land Rover will be making a big debut with the Rover and the Disco for 2003 this summer. The new Range Rover series III is due out in about 2 weeks. The dealers are currently being trained and testing the new model, which was a joint effort between BMW and Land Rover. The new RRIII is really nice, almost too nice to off road. The colors the options are all reconfigured and redesigned with the best of results. This technology is being passed onto the 2003 Discovery II with new options, brakes, suspension, engine, headlights, etc. If anyone has seen pictures of the new Rover, will love the 2003 Disco. They look the same from the front. LR changed the headlights and the taillights for 2003. The engine is what I am really waiting for. Once I get the prices back I will order one for the July launch. Also if you have been poking around this web site you will find that Land Rover is number 5 for stereo's in cars over $30K... 5. 2002 Land Rover Range Rover (Alpine/Harman-Kardon) An SUV in the top five? Pass the tea and crumpets and crank up the volume — this is one great-sounding audio system. With 460 watts of unadulterated Alpine juice powering 12 Harman-Kardon speakers throughout the cabin, you'll think you're at the Royal Albert Hall when this thing kicks in. The system includes an in-dash six-disc CD changer, a 10-inch subwoofer in back and — something we rarely see — a separate volume control for the sub. Pass the Grey Poupon and the opera glasses, bloke. Now if they could just fix the funky cosmetics and ergonomics. Oh, wait. They did that (with BMW's help) for 2003. Feed back? |
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| The 2003 Discovery is not a complete update, basically it involves the 4.6 engine, diff lock being enabled and body and trim changes. Suspension, Chassis, Body Structure, basic interior design (other than colors) are unchanged from the 2002 Discovery. There are similarities in the Headlamps to the New Range Rover but none of the New Range Rover technologies are involved in this version. | |
| I am confused. The DIIs' haven't been around for 5+ years yet. All I know is in my 16K, good mileage (16), power,awesone snow capabilities, minimal maintenance and plenty of stares and high fives. My brother-in-law has the same comments with his 30K+ DII and his friend has one the the first 1999 DIIs with 60K+ with no problems yet to be seen. I will get back to you in 4 years and give you a report. | |
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I have a question for Tincup47, why would they state that the brakes, suspension, head lights, even the navigation monitor is in the LCD format rather then the current scroll words only model? I have the new brochure and it details each of these areas as being new and updated. Plus the sales person was just in San Diego on their testing grounds. How do you know that these areas remain unchanged? I am asking not challenging because this conflicts with what I have been told/learned. Also with that said do you know of any completely new body’s for 2004 on the Disco II? Thank you very much for your comments. |
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| While there have been enhancements to many aspects of the Discovery, the basic platform is unchanged. It is still body on frame construction with live axles front and rear. The Engine (the 4.6 is just a stroked 4.0), Transmission and transfer box are basically the same as the current version as is the suspension. The Range Rover on the other hand is new from the ground up, sharing virtually no pieces from the current model. | |
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I've got a '96 DI and I've had her about 5 years now. That year is known for several problems, all of which have happened to me. But once sorted, they stayed fixed. I'm at 70k miles now, and those are hard miles. I might call those "dog miles", each one counts for 7 on-road light-footed miles? I drive Anuqa offroad extensively, I regularly bend the air dam, break my rear lamp lenses in the bumper and grind parts on the underside. I've been places where the passengers were shouting to LET ME OUT!!! and effortlessly got back again. This winter she really shined; I spent a week tugging people out of ditches when we got 3 feet of snow in 24 hours. Everyone else that I know was stuck, in Explorers, Jeeps, you name it. I was having the time of my life pushing snow with the headlights, blowing it up over the windshield, and only got buried a couple times (and had to climb out the back hatch to dig myself out... the doors wouldn't open). Reliability-wise, she had a tough start. One major mechanical, several minor mechanicals, several minor electricals, and the last problem was sorted 3 days after the warranty died. And I must say it was a painful agonizing death... I used that warranty till it bled. And now? Not ONE problem in over 3 years of hard, hard use. I haven't broken anything that wasn't MY fault (stupidity). And I can compare her reliability to any of the 13 Hondas I've owned over the years... and that's with the hard use. I want to say "abuse" but it's not... it's simply hard use. I maintain her impeccably, and she rewards time and again. I have nothing but highest recommendation for this truck. Regards, -Bob |
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| Hello old, and new Roverites, it's been a long time since I posted. I'm at 26,250 miles with my 00 DII, and have had ZERO problems. It's the best, most trouble-free, reliable vehicle out of about 32 I've owned (including numerous BMW, MB, Toy, and others). That's in total contrast to my '99 DII which was the ultimate piece of crap. Goes to show you, that no two are alike, and everybody can have a lemon. Please don't judge a vehicle based on just one opinion. | |
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Guys, thanks for your responses. I am test driving the DII SE tomorrow and considering 01 Range Rover Demos. If I DII I will order the 03 model which comes with a new warrantee which is parts/labor/service/maintenance/roadside assistance for 5/50,000. I really liked that feature that they will be offering. I had also mentioned that the new 2003 were getting new breaks and suspension and was challenged by another Towne about 4 responses back. I called the dealer and they confirmed that both systems would be refined and updated to have more advancements and corrections over the previous years. I would especially like to thank “Nanug” for writing in and telling everyone what the Discovery was designed for and that they were actually designed prior to 1999. I thought I was nuts, when someone stated that they were just launched in 99. I think my next question should be what colors inside and our does everyone recommend. Thanks everybody. |
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| I did not dispute that the brakes and suspension would not be improved, just that is not a complete redesign like the 2003 Range Rover is over the 2002 model. There are changes to front end geometry that improves turn in and anti-dive features, along with changes to the brakes to improve pedal feel and stopping distances in the 03 Discovery. This is different than the changes from a body on frame, live axles front and rear to Unibody construction with front and rear independent suspension with the 02-03 Range Rover. The 03 Discovery will probably be the best Discovery made yet, but it is not a complete update. | |
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Thanks for the kind words. The Disco was actually introduced overseas in 1994, I believe. The one perfect pure and holy color for any vehicle is, of course, silver. Having aluminum skins under the paint, if you get too friendly with a tree branch and gouge your finish, nobody will really be able to tell. My interior color is darkish grey, and it's wearing like iron. The older seats had the REALLY top grade leather and with 6 years of use mine still look new with minor wrinkling where they flex. I use Lexol to keep them soft. I bought the heavy, deep floor mats from Costco and they do well at trapping mud and snow. Best regards, I'm out of here for the weekend. We got fresh snow overnight and I'm taking a bunch of kids out camping in it. -Bob |
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