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#12 of 1696 Dakota, Durango, Pathfinder views by rcarboni May 10, 2000 (3:23 pm)
linart, Sorry to hear of your distress with the Dak. You are definitely the exception, as the Dak has proven to be a solid truck that just keeps getting better over the years. The loyalty of Dak owners is very strong because of the reliability and performance as proven by groups such as the Dakota Mailing List and the R/T group. This loyalty was a key reason why I choose a Durango. I hope you enjoy your Nissan. I ruled the PF out immediately in my decision because I had commuted to work (100 miles daily) with a buddy in his '96 PF for about a year. Although I found the truck to be reliable with little mechanical failure, the ride was comparable to a VW micro-bus with the wind pushing the truck all over the road. I also felt that my proximity to the door and windshield was very tight, and did not convey a feeling of safety. I also felt this with the Isuzu Trooper. Additionally, this close proximity had the detrimental effect of the sun (which was always on my side) beating down on me constantly. I'm not sure where you get the idea that OHC, multi-valve, variable-timing engines are so superior to pushrods. With 2.4 litres less in size, the PF is only getting 2 mpg better than a 5.9 Durango. You'll make that up on your first repair bill out of warranty. You've got a high-reving, cushy, grocery getter, and if that's what you wanted, then you're all set. I wanted low-end stump pulling power for a truck that's gonna work hard and not sit in the mall parking lot. Hopefully, we both got what we wanted.
#13 of 1696 Rear View Mirror by ro5 May 10, 2000 (3:42 pm)
I know how the automatic rear view mirror is suppose to work.    my question is why its not working in my new durango; are any others having problems with it not working ? i'm begining to think that tinting in the rear windshield dims the lights behind you so mauch that the automatic mirror sensor is not picking up the bright light. if this is the case then maybe the automatic rear view mirror was a waste.
#14 of 1696 to linart by dwh6 May 10, 2000 (4:31 pm)
I would like to echo my sympathy over the troubles you had with your Dakota. But it seems as if your vehicle was a lemon and you may have had a remedy under the Lemon Laws of your state (just about all states have them now, I believe). My father is an executive with DC. He and my mother used to each get a new lease car every year and now get one every two years (the program rules changed). I also was able to participate in this employee lease program for a while (when I lived with them many years ago). As a result, I have had experience with many Chrysler products. My personal opinion is that Chrysler's quality these days is generally very good. Some vehicles have been worse than others in terms of annoyances (1998 Town and Country minivan just wouldn't stop squeaking in the rear end). And some have even had major mechanical problems (one car had a ticking in the engine that just wouldn't go away no matter what). But these were certainly the exceptions. There will always be people who have bad experiences in any consumer product. You certainly are justified in not buying a DC product - if I were in your shoes I would hesitate also. But I just bought a 2000 Durango 5.9L that has 7000 miles on it and is solid as a rock. Next year I'll be getting a Chrysler LHS (or maybe I'll wait a couple years until the new hemi 300 is released!). You can disagree, but the styling of DC products is the best of any manufacturer in its price range. Japanese cars all look the same and Ford and GM are just plain ugly, in my opinion. I'm happy with my purchase and am glad you are too.
#15 of 1696 Durango Rebate.... by q8740 May 10, 2000 (6:52 pm)
I called Dodge this morning and confirmed that a $1000.00 rebate on all durangos is effective today thru July 5, 2000. Scott Q
#16 of 1696 by larryb9 May 10, 2000 (7:45 pm)
When driving my 99 DD 5.2 I sometimes hear a clicking sound in the transmission(auto) in drive or reverse with OD on or off. It sound similar to a fan hitting on the fan cover. Trans must get warmed up for it to be noticed. This does not happen all the time but the two times last fall when I was towing my boat with OD off it happened and this bothers me. The sound goes away when you shift into park or neutral. The Dodge dealer here found and heard nothing when I took it in. They said bring it in when it is happening which is not that easy to do as they are usually not open when I am driving. Anyone heard or experienced this? I don't want trans problems when towing a boat this summer. Boat and trailer are about 4200 lbs.
#17 of 1696 Durango vs Pathfinder by drachir May 10, 2000 (10:15 pm)
I have a 1999.5 Pathfinder that we are going to trade in real soon for a 2000 Durango. We got the PF a year ago and have loved it, but when it comes to towing power, it just does not have it! We have a 19' Travel Trailer that weighs 3600#, and we can't get over 45-50mph on small hills with the PF. We are taking the trailer on short trip this weekend, with the PF, and some real good hills, 6% grade over 3 miles long, we'll see how badly it does. Nissan makes a real quality and safe SUV, but even the new engine is not good for raw towing power, not near enough torque! We are thinking about the DD w/ 4.7 V-8 & 3.92 rear end gearing, in and SLT 4x4 DD. Can anyone give me some advise on towing with that engine and gear ratio. I don't really want to pay the price at the pump and have to go with the 5.9 and 3.92 rear end. If I have to I will, I need to tow this trailer with relative ease.
#18 of 1696 Rebate confirmed by captain13 May 11, 2000 (3:09 am)
My dealer in so. Wisc. confirmed the $1000 rebate today also. They didn't know anything about it when I asked late last week, (after reading about it here). Thanks again numbers1guy. I'm picking up my SLT on Sat. Is it normal for the rebate to be applied after taxes?
#19 of 1696 New Durango owner here ! by numbersguy1 May 11, 2000 (4:17 am)
Glad I waited a week for the rebate to kick in. Picked up my 4.7L this a.m. So far so good (except this guy almost backed into me after having the car off the lot for only 10 minutes !!) My rebate was applied after the taxes. The pre-printed sales contract has a line for it in the down-payment section after all fees are applied. Captain13, I am obviously happy to get the rebate, but as I told my wife, I am just as happy that someone else out there in Cyberland could benefit too. That was the reason to post in the first place and the reason to follow up with more info. Good luck with your purchase.
#20 of 1696 drachir.... by pr4mncplus May 11, 2000 (5:36 am)
I've got the 4.7L with the 3.92 rear gearing, as well as the FT4WD. It will pull your trailer with very little difficulty. I don't really see why most 2000 4WD DD owners would opt for the 5.9L unless they get the R/T or do A LOT of heavy duty pulling. My only recommendation, besides the towing package (of course), is to get the limited slip. Good luck. Replies to this message: sean3 (Dec 18, 2004 4:07 pm)
#21 of 1696 Engine Choice by mrboost May 11, 2000 (11:59 am)
The 4.7 vs 5.9 Topic had been discussed on The DOC Forum. It appears to me that at best you may get 2 MPG better in city and maybe 1 MPG Highway. This seems to be the concensus. I am getting about 13.9 City, over 16 Highway. You dont buy these things for mileage. Note I have friends with Blazers 4.3's, GC with 5.2's and 4.0's, and Explorers with V6's. None brag too much about mileage, usually 12-15 City and maybe 16-20MPG highway. SO I dont feel bad knowing I have gobs of tourque, more pulling power and third seat plus a "proven" drivetrain that has been around for years. Best advice would be to use synthetics in all your drive train to improve mileage.

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