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#9830 of 10987 Re: Higlander or Pilot... ( michaelp1) [pilot130]
Dec 31, 2004 (7:20 am)
We have a 2004 Highlander(2WD V-6 3.3L) that was purchased in November 2003. I highly recommend the vehicle. The 2WD Highlander comes with traction control and stability control standard. First test drove the Honda CRV. CRV labored to go up a slight incline with five people in it. For three thousand more we were able to purchase a much better vehicle with great acceleration. I can't comment on the Pilot since didn't test drive, but sticker price was considerably higher than a Highlander.
My experience in dealing with the Toyota dealer was much better than a Honda dealer. Toyota dealer sold me the Highlander at invoice price. Honda dealers were intent on selling a vehicle for close to sticker price.
Recently drove the Higlander 400 miles roundtrip to a ski resort with six adults (4 teenagers). No complaints from the teenager sitting in the third row of seats. I borrowed a luggage carrier for the roof and it fit perfectly on the roof rack. Held three snow boards and luggage. In every day driving I wouldn't use the third seat.
When I first started driving the Highlander there was a slight hesitation between second and third gears. Now, I drive the vehicle and there is no problem that I can tell. Manual says the gear shifting adjusts to the driver.
Highlander is great for every day driving, but I wouldn't recommend for off-roading. If you want an off-roader look at a Toyota 4-Runner.
Happy New Year,
Middle Age Guy
#9831 of 10987 Toyota's True-2 Battery question...
Dec 31, 2004 (11:34 am)
Does anyone have experience with or information regarding the True-2 battery? My 01 HL is ready for a replacement.
Jan 02, 2005 (8:25 am)
Except for my very first car (a '64 Rambler) I have had nothing but 4-cylinder cars. I also had a 4WD Nissan Sentra and can tell you that the FWD 4-cylinder Highlander has much more pep. As I have mentioned before in this forum, I think it does a great job merging into Interstate traffic. I notice that it's a 4-cylinder rather than a V6 when I pull out onto roads from a complete stop. But here again, it has much more pep that the Sentra had. If you are used to 4-cylinders, I think you will be happy with the 4-cylinder Highlander. But take it for a good test drive and try it out under all these conditions.
#9833 of 10987 Re: For michaelp... [herzogtum71]
Jan 02, 2005 (9:25 am)
Hey herzogtum71 -
I am intrigued but the 4cyl Highlander. Not many of them on the used market where I live. New or used, they are thousands of $$ less expensive. The two things I wonder about are - climbing long hills, and high speed cruising - like 80 mph. Here in So Cal, we need to do both. Is she quiet at 80mph? Does that 4-speed trans hunt while doing hills? Can it make it up long inclines at 65mph (or higher?), without screaming in 3rd or 2nd gear? Thanks for your continuing posts...
#9834 of 10987 Re: mpg for 3.3 liter engine [hmurphy]
Jan 02, 2005 (9:45 am)
Out of your control? I understand your comment about not having control over the mileage - after all, once you buy it, the car is what it is. But different tires have different rolling resistance - and all tires are affected by the air pressure in them. I've found that if I do nothing more than just keep my tires inflated to 4 psi over recommended pressure, I get 2-3 more mpg than when I didn't. True, it may not be interesting to watch the mpg continuously on some display, but I do notice how much it cost to fill up, and how many miles I drove before I had to. Getting that extra 40-50 miles out of every tank gives me a good feeling.
#9835 of 10987 Re: mpg for 3.3 liter engine [ecotrklvr]
Jan 02, 2005 (11:25 am)
That's a good point. Maybe I'll try your air pressure trick and see if it makes a difference.
I guess I feel the tiniest bit guilty about driving a gass guzzler, so I try to avoid the truth.
#9836 of 10987 Well, ekotrklvr....
Jan 03, 2005 (9:03 am)
I can't say I have ever cruised at 80 mph. I've had the 4-cylinder Highlander beyond 80 for short spurts, and it clearly can go faster than that.
Cruising at 70-75 is no problem. The hilliest high-speed drive I have made would have to be from Massachusetts to Pittsburgh and back on I-80 across northern Pennsylvania. The vehicle held the speed well with cruise control. It probably downshifted on many of the bigger hills to third gear(it's a 4-speed automatic), but it was so seemless that I couldn't tell for sure without look at the tachometer. When it shifted into second with the cruise control going, the engine was noisier. But it didn't last that long before shifting back to high. One thing I did notice was that it was less likely to downshift at all if I was driving myself, without the cruise control.
The engine isn't overly noisy at those speeds, at least in my opinion. You do get a certain amount of road noise and wind noise, but probably no more than the V6. Certainly not enough to interfere with listening to the stereo.
You are right that the 4-cylinder is much less expensive. If people don't mind the I4 instead of the V6, the FWD 4-cylinder is one of the best deals in a vehicle in this class. Around here you see them advertised in the newspaper for under $20,000. They advertise the I4's so much here because most buyers want the V6.
After all the fine print and gimmicks, you definitely can get a FWD 4-cylinder Highlander in the $22,000 to $23,000 range. And it's pretty well equipped for the price with ABS, traction control, roof rack, tinted rear glass, tonneau cover, AM/FM/CD/Cassette with 6 speakers, etc.
#9837 of 10987 Re: Well, ekotrklvr.... [herzogtum71]
Jan 03, 2005 (11:05 am)
Thanks herzogtum71 - another informative post. I've checked the local AutoTrader, and the 4-cylinders are way less expensive. 70-75mph is probably fine for most of my trips, except the OC-San Fran run, and the OC-Las Vegas run. Both of those need to run at 80-85 to keep up with the flow of traffic. I'll get one of the used ones on the local market out on the road for a test.
My '99 CR-V can do the 80-95 mph cruising with its 146HP, but it's a manual trans. I wish Toyota would offer that engine with a stick.
#9838 of 10987 Re: Well, ekotrklvr.... [herzogtum71]
Jan 03, 2005 (11:25 am)
Another thanks for an informative post. Unfortunately, my main issue with the 4 cyl (aside from possible resale issues due to their relative unpopularity)is the difficulty of optioning them up to virtually any extent due to Toyota's unfriendly option policies. And I'm not talking about serious add-ons--only, in my case, a higher level of airbag protection, which seems pretty much unavailable. It's a deal breaker.
#9839 of 10987 Re: Well, ekotrklvr.... [lumbar]
Jan 03, 2005 (12:44 pm)
last may we got a basic v6 with side air bags
only 3 in the district/zone
dealer went and got it from 300 miles away