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#10506 of 10987 Wikipedia Entry for Highlander
Apr 23, 2006 (9:36 pm)
I just discovered Wikipedia from an individual contributor standpoint, i.e., I made some minor corrections and additions to the entry for Toyota Highlander. Please review for accuracy and either let me know if you see any inaccuracies or feel free to make the changes yourself!
(The entry originally stated the center console was introduced in 2004 whereas it was introduced in 2002; it incorrectly implied the HL went on sale in the U.S. in 2000 whereas it actually went on sale in early 2001; it didn't mention the new Sport model; it implied 4cyl models are only available in FWD for all model years whereas to my knowledge this is only the case for '06s. Somewhat minor stuff but I cleaned it up.
There is a sentence in there that states "Base models are equipped with a limited slip differential, with stability control providing slip control for more expensive derivatives." I'm not sure if this is indeed technically accurate or whether it's true for all model years, so if not it should probably be changed.)
Wikipedia can become a time sink if you're not careful!
(For those who aren't familar with it Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia that is entirely maintained by anyone on the web who wants to make changes to it, unlike traditional encyclopedias like Britanica and Encarta that are written by paid professionals. You don't even have to set-up a user account or log-in if you don't want to! I read an article or heard on the radio recently that it was found to have error rates similar to those of traditional encyclopedias.)
#10507 of 10987 Inferior Nav System on 2006 Highlanders
Apr 27, 2006 (12:21 pm)
Due to my dissatisfaction with the screen resolution on the Navigation System in my new '06 Highlander Limited, I was invited to bring it into the dealership where it had been purchased in late 2005 (Hayward Toyota in Hayward, CA). This followed an exchange of emails with the Toyota website (http://www.toyota.com/), resulting in Toyota contacting the Customer Relations Manager at the dealership, who asked me to bring in the vehicle to have it checked out. I did so in April 2006 and learned something very interesting:
It turns out the Nav System in the 2006 Highlander is an older generation, unlike that which is placed into the Prius. It has lower screen resolution (and presumably other older generation features) by design. The lower screen resolution results in jagged lines for roads and difficult to read street names on the maps. Interestingly enough, during my purchase process when I mentioned the "dot-matrix like" fonts on the Nav maps, the salesman at Hayward Toyota made 2 comments:
(1) "Oh, the Nav in my Prius looks just the same."
(2) "You just need to increase the brightness of the screen."
Both of these statements, made by the salesman (at the time, Fleet Service Manager) in November 2005, turned out to be false.
Flash forward to April 2006 and I am sitting in the Service Manager's office at Hayward Toyota (Hayward, CA), expressing my disappointment with this situation. The Service Manager was polite and offered to phone a Toyota "engineer" to air my complaint. I was amazed to hear the engineer state that the Nav units going into 2006 Highlanders (presumably even the hybrids) are "Gen 4" (short for Generation 4), while those going into the 2006 Prius are "Gen 5." He went on to say that Gen 5 Nav units were much better than Gen 4 but Toyota elected not to install the better units in 2006 Highlanders.
Now when one spends an extra $2000 for an electronic accessory (e.g., the Nav System), it would be reasonable to assume that the "latest and greatest" version would be installed. In fact, when one buys a new vehicle from an authorized dealer, it sure seems reasonable to me to expect that it comes with current technology. This would seem to especially true if one purchases a more expensive trim line (we bought a V6, Limited [leather seats, moon roof, aluminum wheels, etc.]). This obviously was not the case with the Nav System Toyota selected to go into the '06 Highlander. I wonder what other inferior systems, my Highlander contains ...
Since 1999, between my wife and I, our family has purchased 4 new vehicles from Toyota dealerships. Our purchase considerations were based on the excellent track record which Toyota has established and the trust which we had placed in the firm's integrity. The only other manufacturer we considered was Honda, from which I had purchased several cars in the late 1980's. I will tell you that Toyota will not be our first choice for future vehicle purchases and we will certainly share this experience with our friends and family. I guess the old saying, "Buyer beware ..." holds true when purchasing a new Toyota.
#10508 of 10987 Re: Inferior Nav System on 2006 Highlanders [melvinsb]
Apr 27, 2006 (12:48 pm)
While I don't disagree with your premis that:
"Now when one spends an extra $2000 for an electronic accessory (e.g., the Nav System), it would be reasonable to assume that the "latest and greatest" version would be installed."
I do have one comment...keep in mind that the Highlander dates back to 2001, with only a few changes. Yes, they did update the engne and trans in 2004, so one would wonder why the NAV system wasn't updated then. Perhaps it has to do with dash space and design? I also think that the Lexus RX330 (much more $$ than Highlander) uses the same NAV as the Highlander....I could be wrong.
I am not in disagreemenmt with you at all, just food for thought. I Have a 2005 HL Limited w/o Nav, my brother has a 2006 HL Hybrid with nav, and thoroughly enjoys the NAV. Guess I will be looking for NAV in my next car....
Re: your coments on what the salesman said...There are some very knowledgable sales people out there. Unfortunately, I tend to know more about the vehicle I intend on purchasing then the majority of the sales people I have encountered over the years. Your sales person should have at least said, "I don't know, let's look into this for you."
I bet it would have gone a long way to making you feel better.
Enjoy your Highlander, I doubt there is a better vehicle in overall terms for the money... reliability, utility, comfort, resale...
(ok....so it was more than one comment!)
#10509 of 10987 Sport model: When and with Leather?
Apr 28, 2006 (3:35 pm)
Anyone seen a "sport" HL2006 at a dealer yet? And can u get one w/ Leather? According to toyota.com, the Sport has 17in tires as does the Limited. Not much diff 'tween the two. Looks like its positioned below the Limited. Anyone have a visual yet?
#10510 of 10987 Re: Sport model: When and with Leather? [car44]
Apr 28, 2006 (8:44 pm)
That was my conclusion too after reading the feature list for the Sport -- seems like the Limited platform without leather and a different grille; haven't been to a dealer recently, but the press release seemed to indicate it should currently be available.
#10511 of 10987 Re: Weird Noise 2004 V4 Highlander [losarhp]
Apr 29, 2006 (7:19 am)
It could be that belts have separated inside a tire. It happened to me once.
#10512 of 10987 Re: Sport model: When and with Leather? [car44]
Apr 29, 2006 (9:49 am)
From a picture i saw on the Toyota website, it doesn't seem to have the climate control and mini-trip cpmputer that is standard in the Limited
#10513 of 10987 Comparing Highlander to Acura MDX
May 01, 2006 (8:29 pm)
I need a new car-- one with a 3rd row for carpooling. I test-drove an MDX recently & my husband test-drove a Highlander Hybrid last summer. (He bought the Lexus 400h.) I prefer the MDX, but because he expects to get a better price on the Highlander (non-hybrid) that is the direction I am being gently pushed.
These are my questions:
1) How truly accessible is the 3rd row? I will be getting 4 & 5 year olds in & out of there on a daily basis. Will there be room for a stroller & groceries, etc., when the 3rd row is up?
2) The nav system on my husband's Lexus works very well. The MDX's nav has a good rep (I haven't checked it out yet.). Is the Highlander nav system inferior, as I've read in some previous posts?
3) Are there airbags for the 3rd row now?
Thanks in advance for your help!
#10514 of 10987 Re: Comparing Highlander to Acura MDX [jjane]
May 02, 2006 (6:57 am)
I just visited an Acura showroom to look at the MDX. A very nice car w/ good reliability reports from Consumer Reports magazine (HL also has good reviews by CR). The MDX w/ Nav will run about 38k-40k. A Highlander Limited w/ Nav will run in the low 30s (i think). The MDX nav is nice with voice activation ("find closest chineese food"), bluetooth for phone, and i believe zagat info. The MDX can be configured with XM (not run thru the NAV screen though... according to salesmen). Highlander cannot be ordered w/ XM/Sirius. You have to do that aftermarket. MDX recommends high test gas, not so for HL. 3rd row seat is small for MDX (cannot comment on HL's 3rd row). The MDX's second row has 2 recline position which may eat up 3rd row space. 3rd row in MDX is splittable. Salesmen said NAV map updates for MDX on disk run $180. I didnt get more details on that.
#10515 of 10987 Re: Comparing Highlander to Acura MDX [jjane]
May 02, 2006 (8:19 am)
The upcoming 07 MDX will be equipped with SH-AWD. If you decide on the MDX (between the HL and MDX I would) I would wait for the 07.