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Dec 11, 2004 (10:01 pm)
nvbanker is a smart fella, and he is correct that your Explorer is probably ok. He is also correct about the short on your bus. When your truck was having that much electricity drawn from it, was a clear indicator. I had a 1996 Chevrolet step van for work. Thing had a 6.2L GM diesel in it. Truck was trash unfortunately, I had so many problems with it. Honestly it was amazing how a vehicle void of so many creature comforts and other assorted luxury items was such a huge piece of junk. Anyway, I had to jump it numerous times without any trouble, so I don't blame you for trying. I burnt up a set of cables trying to jump a 1978 Ford full size cargo van. After that failed attempt to start it, I donated it to charity, haha.
Dec 11, 2004 (10:32 pm)
I won't let this get too far off-topic, but in our experience, the GM 6.2 diesel is crap. we have 3 van-based buses, 2 '93 Chevy's and 1 '96 GMC (did have 2, but after a new transmission and new engine in one of them, it decided it wanted a face lift too, it was totaled). The two '93s are still running, but the remaining '96 had a new transmission put in last year, and right now it's getting a new engine. When it was still on the road, it would break down at least twice a month, usually in a sharp curve in the middle of the road with no where to pull off. Fun stuff.
Do you think the life of the battery may be shortened by this incident?
#3165 of 6385 Re: idntnvu and similar problems [leomort]
Dec 12, 2004 (1:56 am)
Responding to your intermittent starting problems. I have 2 Explorers, a 1997 EB V8 All Wheel drive and a 1998 EB V6. You might want to have the IAC valve changed. Called the Valve Assembly-Idle Air Control $129.29 Part #F67Z-9F715 BB and a new gasket put on for $1.51. If your car is hard starting and sometimes chugs along this could be your problem. You will need to have a Ford Dealer check this for you as they hook your car up to a computer to diagnose this. This can only be performed at your Ford dealer. I have run both cars down near or below E without any problems. To my knowledge i have never changed the fuel filters on either car and they run just fine. Only the IAC valve on both. Hope this helps
#3166 of 6385 idntnvu & bond001
Dec 12, 2004 (11:55 am)
Very hard to say what may have happened to your battery, though probably nothing if your truck starts ok. You may want to stick a charger on it for a couple of hours just in case it took a big hit on the battery's charge. The only other thing that may have been damaged, is the alternator. Both the battery and alternator can be checked for free at Autozone. A good alternator runs at around 14 volts while running, and a good battery holds somewhere between 11 and 12 volts.
As for GM 6.2L and 6.5L Turbos, pure trash, though with stronger emphasis on the 6.2L. The step van had an Allison transmission in it, which was also bad. UGH! There is a fleet of about 6, 96 step vans, and all but the mine had the Allison transmission go out, mine just shifted very roughly.
You may have a point with the IAC valve. Seems like you posting about that brought back memories from the past when people were writing in here about "hard to start" and "poor idle" conditions.
Both of the Explorers that I am talking about (2000's) will both not starting when backed up a hill, and have less than a quarter of a tank of gas. I always have to roll to the bottom of my driveway to start the trucks. It hasn't happened in a while because the gas always stays above 3/4 or a tank. When I suggested to keep the gas level above 3/4 it was for the reasons mentioned. Cooling, keeps debris out of the pre-filter (and fuel line filter), and solves the no start condition some have when on an incline.
I don't claim that these are facts, just friendly suggestions that were passed on to me from various people I have talked to. They seem to make sense, but it's anyones guess. I do believe that it is a part of regular maintenance to change your fuel filters. When they build up crud and sediments in them over time, it causes a strain on your fuel pump, and will also decrease your gas mileage. Think of it as when you are blowing air through a straw. Bend the straw and it becomes much harder to push the air through. This strain causes heat, and will eventually get the best of your fuel pump.
Dec 12, 2004 (5:56 pm)
I park my 97 facing down on a steep driveway and if I'm below 1/4 tank before I pull in, then there can be trouble. I've "run out of gas" there just trying to warm it up for a couple minutes. The tank is lengthwise and it is just simple physics.
#3168 of 6385 Re: Starting on a hill
Dec 12, 2004 (6:14 pm)
"The tank is lengthwise and it is just simple physics."
Very true, but for some reason my 1999 Expedition does not seem to be as sensitive to this issue. However, like the rest of my vehicles, the gas in that rarely gets below a quarter tank.
#3169 of 6385 Re: shuttering sound [starrin]
Dec 12, 2004 (9:31 pm)
Did you ever find out what was causing this problem?
#3170 of 6385 Re: idntnvu & bond001 [jrc346]
Dec 12, 2004 (10:20 pm)
Thanks for your reply. You are right about the regular maintance. Maintaince schedules get very expensive. I have the oil & filter changed every 3000 miles for both cars & tires rotated,change the air filter around 12,000. I let the dealership do the major transmittion filter change when asked. The fuel filter i do monitor and haven't had any problems with gas mileage or performance either 97 or 98. My 97 is garaged. The 98 i believe has had a fuel filter change or two. Right now the 98 is approaching 100,000 miles while my 97 is approaching 60,000. For the most part i am pleased with both cars. Is the fuel tank different in my Explorers than the 2000?
Dec 13, 2004 (12:57 am)
"Is the fuel tank different in my Explorers than the 2000?"
That is what I am wondering. The 1996 Explorer I sold 3 years ago didn't have the start problem on a hill, but it did burn up a fuel pump at around 90,000mi, so that is why I am cautious.
#3172 of 6385 Bond001, jrc346, & idntnvu
Dec 13, 2004 (6:30 am)
Thank you for all you posts. I wasn't able to post on Friday due to Edmund's talk forums being down for maintenence. My '01 Explorer V8 AWD seems to be starting ok for the moment. But if I have another episode of hard starter problem, I'm going to look into the IAC valve change. Thanks to all.