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Ford Excursion, Chevrolet Suburban, GMC Yukon XL, SUV
#369 of 423 Test Drive tells the tale
Dec 17, 2003 (12:43 am)
Test driving Suburban then Excursion tells the
tale and the consumer can decide what is best
for them. I consider both of these vehicles totally different.
Suburban - 2000 pounds lighter, 5.3L V8 runs well,
comfortable ride, no fear of driving fast on the
freeway during rush hour ~70-90 mph, but too much
bad press on the internet about the engines.
Excursion PSD - Heavy beast, feels like a giant
box with wheels, rough ride, fear of driving
fast on the freeway during rush hour >70 mph,
feels clumsy on turns, but it has diesel!
Both vehicles lack modern internal design and
utility. Both require removed of 3rd row seats
to haul sheets of plywood.
Both GM and Ford need to moderize the interiors,
perhaps they can learn from the new Nissan
Pathfinder Armada, this new vehicle is interesting. It's only a 1/2 ton SUV, but it's
optimzed for people comfort. Second row leg room
is better than GM or Ford offerings, the powertrain is best in class, it's suspension is
excellent, no removal of seats to haul a sheet of
plywood and it's shorter in length by a large
margin. It's optimized!, but it's ugly - hehehe
Suburban would be my large family vehicle for
long trips, heavy tow capability and lots of
Excursion w/PSD would be my large family vehicle
for short trips, heavier tow capability and lots
Armada would be my family vehicle for long trips,
medium tow capability (even though they claim
9100 lbs towing), 4x8 plywood hauler, and small
cargo, funnest to drive and best 2nd row leg room
of all SUV's.
#370 of 423 Test Drive tales....
Dec 17, 2003 (10:29 am)
In general, I agree with your comparison of the Sub vs Excursion, but your inclusion of the Armada is a bit off. Nissan has certainly raised the bar with regard to interior refinement in a large SUV, but it's a more direct competitor to the Tahoe or Expedition. With the 3rd row seating in use, there is precious little space for cargo in the Armada. Both the Excursion and the Suburban are far more useful for those who need/want to transport BOTH people AND stuff.
Just my 2 cents worth.
#371 of 423 Future of Excursion........Diesel Suburban
Jan 20, 2004 (12:17 pm)
Sounds like Ford has given the Excursion several more years in the line-up. This makes sense as all the basics for the frame and driveline are from the F250 and F350.
Also, there have been rumors of the new Duramax diesel being available in the Suburban 2500. Any news on that front?
#372 of 423 Diesel Suburban
Jan 21, 2004 (10:09 am)
The diesel engine that GM offers in the light duty truck line known as the Duramax is actually an Isuzu motor retrofitted for light duty trucks.
From what I have read on the topic, the Duramax engines have not proved to be worthy over the past few years.
While I generally prefer GM vehicles over other brands, I would say that Ford offers the better choice if you are looking for the diesel engine. They use the Navistar (International) 7.3L which is a proven motor.
Jan 22, 2004 (12:48 pm)
I hadn't realized that the Duramax was giving trouble in the HD pickup trucks. What sort of problems are there?
I see that Ford has switched to a 6.0L diesel in the Excursion as well as in the HD pickups this year. Big increase in power from last year - from 250 HP up to 325 HP.
Feb 26, 2004 (10:02 am)
Any one out there that can help me with the best deal on Denali 04 I would much appreciate it.
One thing if people are shopping Armada if you have kids is easily overlooked if they are not with you when purchasing. Our 5 and 8 yr olds cannot reach the outside door handles! Almost made a major FOO PAA!
I'm trading a 99 sub. slt loaded, pewter, in ex. to good shape with 42, yes, 42000 mls. E$Edmunds says wholesale at 15980, dealers offering 12000 and 13000 at 500 to 1000 over invoice, and THEY keep the rebate. Sounds awful. Any imput out there?
Neighbor has the Excursion ltd. with v10 gas. You feel every tar line in the road, no turning radius and guzzles at 7 mls.per gal COMBINED!
By the way. New Durango other neighbor bought last month with HEMI gets 8 on the highway!!!
Feb 26, 2004 (10:57 am)
I finally saw an Armada on the road this week. Driving a YXL, it was obvious how big the Armada is. However, I would struggle with the "Power Rangers" styling. It gives the impression of multitudinous plastic trim pieces stuck on oddly all around. As ugly as I find the result when new, I can only wince imagining how those deteriorating protrusions will appear with a little aging. Ssssshhhhuuuddddddddddeeeerrrrrr....
Personally, I think they already made the faux pas for you!
Nov 17, 2004 (10:43 pm)
Not much battling of the titans going on - or did everyone buy a Titan?
#377 of 423 Whoa! It's been a while since I've posted on one of these!
Nov 30, 2004 (9:28 am)
This thread has been going on for almost 5 years? Wow!
Well, anyway, I love my Suburban. It's a 1992 GMC Suburban with over 338,000 miles on it, WITH IT'S ORIGNAL ENGINE! Jeez, I finally had to replace the original starter about a year ago. Anyone have any luck getting that kind of mileage out of a Ford engine?
#378 of 423 Whoa!
by steve_ HOST
Nov 30, 2004 (8:08 pm)
That's a lot of miles on a rig period, regardless of make, whether the engine has been rebuilt or not. That's terrific!