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423 messages, Last post on Sep 19, 2008 at 12:04 PM
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| but it appears you killed the thread, unfortunately. I was really enjoying reading this cocophany of testosteronism. In my early days, a driveway with a Cadillac & a Lincoln in it was a house where somebody refused to be outdone! I think towing a Burb with an Excursion tops that easily! | |
| With 13 posts since January and no posts for 6 months, I think it was dead already. | |
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I think it was dead already. Agree! Besides, none of these folks ever showed up for the party at I don't like SUVs, why do you?. tidester, host |
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We owned an Excursion 00 V-10 4WD Limited. We recently purchased an 03 Suburban 1500 V-8 4WD LT. In between we did have a Chrysler mini-van. For a long highway trip the Excursion is something we miss. The seats are great, you pack whatever you want and go. The step in height is what killed our joy with the vehicle. Trying to load our two daughters was an exercise on a daily basis. Heck, at 6'2" I had to step on the running board to get in! The V-10 was a strong runner, even in the mtns of Colo I had no problem keeping up with traffic (read above the speed limit). But the gas mileage penalty was excessive as we of often would get 10mpg. Best day we could coax 13-14 on highway but not usually. The mini-van we tried but there was just not enough room for the stroller and groceries. We needed a vehicle that could get our family of 4 to the airport, pick up 2 adults and luggage and still be comfortable. The Suburban has a great step in height, only slightly higher than the mini-van and overall gas mileage is better (13.5 - 14.5) My wife and I find the around town ride and handling better. Still think the Excursion is a great vehicle, just was not working for us. |
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Test driving Suburban then Excursion tells the tale and the consumer can decide what is best for them. I consider both of these vehicles totally different. Suburban - 2000 pounds lighter, 5.3L V8 runs well, comfortable ride, no fear of driving fast on the freeway during rush hour ~70-90 mph, but too much bad press on the internet about the engines. Excursion PSD - Heavy beast, feels like a giant box with wheels, rough ride, fear of driving fast on the freeway during rush hour >70 mph, feels clumsy on turns, but it has diesel! Both vehicles lack modern internal design and utility. Both require removed of 3rd row seats to haul sheets of plywood. Both GM and Ford need to moderize the interiors, perhaps they can learn from the new Nissan Pathfinder Armada, this new vehicle is interesting. It's only a 1/2 ton SUV, but it's optimzed for people comfort. Second row leg room is better than GM or Ford offerings, the powertrain is best in class, it's suspension is excellent, no removal of seats to haul a sheet of plywood and it's shorter in length by a large margin. It's optimized!, but it's ugly - hehehe Suburban would be my large family vehicle for long trips, heavy tow capability and lots of cargo. Excursion w/PSD would be my large family vehicle for short trips, heavier tow capability and lots of cargo. Armada would be my family vehicle for long trips, medium tow capability (even though they claim 9100 lbs towing), 4x8 plywood hauler, and small cargo, funnest to drive and best 2nd row leg room of all SUV's.
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In general, I agree with your comparison of the Sub vs Excursion, but your inclusion of the Armada is a bit off. Nissan has certainly raised the bar with regard to interior refinement in a large SUV, but it's a more direct competitor to the Tahoe or Expedition. With the 3rd row seating in use, there is precious little space for cargo in the Armada. Both the Excursion and the Suburban are far more useful for those who need/want to transport BOTH people AND stuff. Just my 2 cents worth. |
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Sounds like Ford has given the Excursion several more years in the line-up. This makes sense as all the basics for the frame and driveline are from the F250 and F350. Also, there have been rumors of the new Duramax diesel being available in the Suburban 2500. Any news on that front? |
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The diesel engine that GM offers in the light duty truck line known as the Duramax is actually an Isuzu motor retrofitted for light duty trucks. From what I have read on the topic, the Duramax engines have not proved to be worthy over the past few years. While I generally prefer GM vehicles over other brands, I would say that Ford offers the better choice if you are looking for the diesel engine. They use the Navistar (International) 7.3L which is a proven motor. |
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I hadn't realized that the Duramax was giving trouble in the HD pickup trucks. What sort of problems are there? I see that Ford has switched to a 6.0L diesel in the Excursion as well as in the HD pickups this year. Big increase in power from last year - from 250 HP up to 325 HP. |
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Any one out there that can help me with the best deal on Denali 04 I would much appreciate it. One thing if people are shopping Armada if you have kids is easily overlooked if they are not with you when purchasing. Our 5 and 8 yr olds cannot reach the outside door handles! Almost made a major FOO PAA! I'm trading a 99 sub. slt loaded, pewter, in ex. to good shape with 42, yes, 42000 mls. E$Edmunds says wholesale at 15980, dealers offering 12000 and 13000 at 500 to 1000 over invoice, and THEY keep the rebate. Sounds awful. Any imput out there? Neighbor has the Excursion ltd. with v10 gas. You feel every tar line in the road, no turning radius and guzzles at 7 mls.per gal COMBINED! By the way. New Durango other neighbor bought last month with HEMI gets 8 on the highway!!!
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