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Ford Excursion vs Chevy Suburban/GMC Yukon XL - The battle of the titans

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#355 of 423 Ford Excursion vs. Chevrolet Suburban/GMC Yukon XL by randpall3863 Jan 20, 2003 (1:42 pm)
My girlfriend and I did not need any of these when looking both on-line and at dealers for an SUV. We do not plan to do any heavy hauling or towing. But I did check and compare both.     I checked the engines, features, transmissions and towing capacities. I found the fuel-injected 6.8L V10 for the Excursion has less horsepower than the 6.0L V8 Power Stroke Turbo Diesel. So, I compared it with that engine with the .75-ton Suburban and Envoy XL, both of those with 4WD.     The Excursion has 5 more horsepower than the Suburban or Envoy XL. But GM's are also available with a more powerful optional 8.0L V8. The Excursion has a shiftable 5-speed automatic transmission. The Suburban and Envoy XL have a 4-speed automatic. The Excursion's maximum towing capacity with that engine is 11,000 pounds. The .75-ton Suburbans and Envoy XL's is 12,000. It is 1,000 more, which is handy if needed. And the 2 GM's are estimated to get better fuel economy than the Excursion. There is more.     I am sure I am not the only one who still has cassettes as well as CD's. Cassette is standard in the 2 GM's. It is optional in the Excursion.     If I was to go with a bigger SUV, I would choose one of the 2 GM's over the Excursion. But I had to state the facts about all 3 SUV's.
#356 of 423 RE: Ford Excursion vs. Chevrolet Suburban/GMC Yukon XL by automan227 Jan 21, 2003 (3:32 pm)
Ok. Now here is the response from an Excursion owner with the 7.3L DIESEL not the 6.0L DIESEL. What you need to remember when comparing these trucks is that the V10 is not really the best engine for towing in the Excursion. With that in mind, I can gurantee you that the 6.0L diesel will get significantly better gas mileage then the 8.0L Gas V8 in the GM's. I only know this because I own a 7.3L Diesel and it gets better mileage then my friends 8.0L Gas V8. On top of that, the Excursion has more torque then 8L Gas V8, which means more pickup on the low-end when accelerating, better mileage then a gas engine while towing, and a much smoother ride while towing. Please Keep in mind, the Envoy XL is a completely different vehicle, with a different weight, differrent engine options, and totally different target area so you cannot really include that in a comparison with 2 .75 ton trucks.   Just thought I would give the facts. AS
#357 of 423 Excursion beats all SUV's in towing by jogiba Jan 30, 2003 (7:39 am)
The diesel Excursion has a 20,000 lb GCWR 560 ft lbs Tq 2,000 rpm 44 gal tank and 20 mpg on the highway. Go to any RV forum and you will see the Suburban is not in the same class . http://photos.thedieselstop.com/showphoto.php?photo=8709&papa- ss=&sort=1
#358 of 423 Safety by shieatt Jul 21, 2003 (6:43 am)
cptmcf and gagrice: I was reading your reaction to the SUV bashing, and I have to say that I am in complete agreement. I saw some pictures this weekend of a pileup on I-75 in Dayton. One of the pictures showed a Toyota Corolla that rear-ended a tractor-trailer, and which was itself rear-ended by another tractor-trailer. It was unrecognizable and pushed completely under the trailer in front of it. A Jeep behind the second tractor-trailer suffered an identical fate. No one in the Corolla or the Jeep survived. We are having our fourth child and we struggled between an '04 Sienna minivan and an '03 Suburban. While I know the Sienna is a relatively very safe vehicle, the one thing about crash tests is that they don't take into account what the tested car is hitting or what is hitting it. If I'm going to be the meat in a tractor-trailer sandwich, I want to be in a Suburban (or Excursion) sitting high, with a stiff frame, several feet of hood and engine in front of me, and several feet of cargo space behind the 3rd seat in which my children are sitting. Plus, the new Suburban has "smart" front airbags and available side airbags. Do I wish it had more airbags (e.g., side curtain)? Yes, but at the end of the day give me more steel between me and the other vehicles on the road over more airbags. Do I "need" a big SUV? You never know... Feel free to tax gas and use the proceeds to clean the air and develop more fuel-efficient technologies. I'm willing to pay for size and safety... and I certainly won't feel bad about making the choice between guzzling 200 more gallons of gas over the course of a year in return for the best safety I can get for my wife and 4 children.   All this being said, our other car is a Volvo wagon, which is just about as good in most situations when you only have to transport 3 or 4 people.
#359 of 423 Safety - Update by shieatt Jul 21, 2003 (9:59 am)
Just a few corrections/updates about the accident referenced in the above post - it actually was on I-70. There were 3 people in the Toyota, a 22 year-old mother, her 22 month old child and a 1 year old neice. All 3 died. The guy in the Jeep lived, but is in critical condition. See http://www.daytondailynews.com/localnews/content/localnews/daily/0721fatal.html.
#360 of 423 Excursion is the Clear Winner in My Book! by winblad Aug 21, 2003 (2:06 pm)
When I compared Suburban and Excursion vehicles 3 years ago, the obvious choice for me was the Excursion. With the higher std. towing capacity, V-10 powertrain, and the much valued substantially increased interior room that the Suburban lacks. I couldn't believe that Chevy/GM chose to eliminate so much passenger room with that ridiculous placement of the seatbelts in the second row. Bad engineering design!   With two teenage daughters (and their friends and/or cheerleading squads) and a baby (with all the gear required), my stepmother's Suburban can't even come close to the passenger room and storage space behind the 3rd row seat.   If we aren't moving that many people, then we might take the Suburban. If we want to move a lot of people and gear, and/or tow a heavy payload, we always take the Excursion.   When it came time to choose another SUV a week ago, I chose another Excursion, and still love it more than any other SUV out there on the road. It's the clear winner against a Suburban, in my book!
#361 of 423 Which Excursion did you chose an why? by gcajiaojr Aug 26, 2003 (1:34 pm)
#362 of 423 I own both by sjhflipper Oct 25, 2003 (11:06 pm)
I have a 2001 Excursion Limited and I just bought a 2003 Z71 1500 Suburban for my wife. Both are 4x4s and are loaded. If you compare vehicles you must compare an Excursion with a 2500 Suburban. Next you can buy a diesel Excursion for the same price as a 2500 gas Suburban. I get 18.2 miles to the gallon with my (7.3L) Excursion (3.73 rear-end) 70 mph and the Excursion has a 44 gallon tank. That's over 800 miles per tank. Also, I can buy diesel for 151.9 compared with 189.9 for unleaded. The Suburban (5.3L / 3.73 rear-end)has 31 gallon tank and gets 16 miles per gallon 70 mph. Don't forget the diesel excursion is warranted to 100,000 miles and will last a lot longer than a gas engine. Also, with my comparison I have a 1500 Suburban not a gas guzzling 2500. The maintenance is a little more on the diesel, however, do it yourself and an oil change will cost you only $20 more on the diesel. My wife's Suburban is gadget friendly and has a lot to offer the driver. Onstar, XM sat radio, drivers information center that is out of this world, memory seats, 3-way lumbar support, dual heated front seats with 3 temp settings on your back and butt, 3 zone climate control and so much more I can't possibly mention them all. I just drove the suburban 700 miles and it was amazing. Here is the bottom line, the Excursion is a man's truck I wish it had the electronic features that are standard in the LT Suburban (Ford is dropping the ball we want computers that tell us everything and are at our finger tips (Ford get with the program)), however, I like the way Excursion drives and the confidence I have in the longevity of the diesel engine and ruggedness in the F250 frame. My wife on the other hand loves her Suburban (if only GM would put a diesel with the allison tranny in the suburban) and equally enjoys the fact that her Z71 drives like a car. Oh by the way, when we make extended trips together with both vehicles I tow the Suburban behind the Excursion, for the same reasons I listed above with regards to the diesel engine and MPG. Hopefully this offers some insight from a two SUV family. To all you earth friendly psychos, I'm confident that my family and friends will survive an impact with your Honda insight... how about you?
#363 of 423 re: I own both by tidester HOST Oct 26, 2003 (9:20 am)
To all you earth friendly psychos, I'm confident that my family and friends will survive an impact with your Honda insight... how about you?   This is not the place to fight the "SUVs vs. the World" battles. Take it over to the I don't like SUVs, why do you? discussion.   tidester, host
#364 of 423 sjhflipper by li_sailor Oct 26, 2003 (10:11 am)
...the fact that her Z71 drives like a car.   LOL! I guess that's compared to the Excursion   BTW...have either of actually driven a car?   ...I tow the Suburban behind the Excursion... Hopefully this offers some insight from a two SUV family.   Posting that certainly offers some insight into you   I'm confident that my family and friends will survive an impact with your Honda insight... how about you?   Oh, who cares. It's not like they're, you know, human or anything.

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