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Ford Excursion, Chevrolet Suburban, GMC Yukon XL, SUV
#343 of 423 2001 Suburban/ 2001 F350
Sep 09, 2002 (7:22 pm)
I have a 2001 2500 Suburban 6.0 engine that I pull a 8500 LB Boat and trailer. Also a F350 PS Diesel to pull a 11000 LB 5th Wheel. I have a friend with a 99 Excursion, Diesel and he pulls a boat about 9000 Lbs. He replaced the Transmission at 37000 miles. I think that is the weak point in the Ford. I have owned a 95 Yukon, and a 97 Tahoe before my Suburban. I have never had a power train problem with these trucks and I have pulled a travel trailer with all of the above. My gross weight with the Tahoe, was 11,200 and yes over the limit, but no problems. The other thing about the new Suburban, is the steering is great and turns as good as my Tahoe trade in. The 4x4 Ford is not as easy to park. My F350 needs a football field to make a U turn. It pulls my 5th wheel fine, a gross weight of 19000 lbs. Each has its place, but the Excursion is a truck and the Suburban is in a class all of its own. We drive it every where we go. IMHO
Sep 10, 2002 (1:08 pm)
If Ford really is stopping Excursion production, then we all know who the winner is.
Sep 10, 2002 (8:26 pm)
I am looking at the Excursions at this time. I tow Rock Climbing Walls. I have had to put a new rear end, and a new transmission in my Suburban. I think I need the extra size of the Excursion.
#346 of 423 Rock Climbing walls
Sep 12, 2002 (5:06 pm)
I towed rock climbing walls all over the country for the US Army in a diesel excursion. Thats what sold me on the excursion in the first place. The Army goes for the cheapest bid and Ford was lower than Chevrolet, with proper care and maintenance you will get tons of service out of either one. I have heard of Fords going several hundred thousand miles and GM's needing new transmissions after only 30K and vica versa so its possible to get a lemon with either one, I think maintenance is key and if anything breaks, hopefully it will still be under warranty, I like the extra space of the Excursion and the larger size brings some peace of mind if nothing else...either choice is sure to be a good one but the 700 miles between fillups sold me as I hate spending my free time at the pumps. I suggest you drive both as much as possible and see which one "fits" best....sometimes size does matter though
#347 of 423 Ford is dropping the Excursion
Sep 12, 2002 (6:47 pm)
Ford just anounced that they are killing the Excursion due to poor sales. I think 2003 is the last model year.
#348 of 423 try again!
Sep 13, 2002 (6:00 pm)
the new 6.0L diesel will be out in '03 the end of production is scheduled at end of '04 hopefully this could change if demand increases. It takes a few years to get the ball rolling hope they don't pull the plug too soon.
#349 of 423 Ford is going to look stupid after the Ex is killed.
Oct 09, 2002 (9:41 am)
With the new 6.0L 325HP 560 Ft Lb Tq PSD and HD 5 speed auto trans the 2003/2004 Excursion will be in demand . The Expedition with 5.4 V8 is not in the same class as a PSD Excursion . The PSD Excursion is the first SUV with standard 20,000 Lb GCWR .
Even if Ford comes out with an extended Expedition with a V6 diesel it will not compare with the Excursion in tow rating.
#350 of 423 It's all marketing - or failure of the marketing...
Oct 13, 2002 (5:30 am)
Ford has let the "green" people kill the Excursion... With real world facts and experiences I could market the Ex better than Ford.
I cannot speak to the gas versions, but the diesel version has better all around mileage than my 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee did!!! The Jeep got consistently 13 and 18 mpg over the 125k miles I drove it... Thus far the Ex has gotten anywhere from 15 to 21 mpg for the 4k I've driven it...
And my wife's '02 Lincoln LS V8 gets poorer mileage than the Ex - the few times WHEN I am allowed to drive it! (Of course it is a FUN care to drive - a stealth sports car!!!)
I KNOW what my true fuel mileage is with our bone stock '02 Ex with the PSD and there are many documented cases of potential for much greater improvement with some simple modifications...
The PSD reacts well to air intake and exhaust modifications with 20 to 50 HP increases and better mileage from the increased effeciency...
More air intake = better burn rates of the fuel..
Proper exhaust tuning = better flow thru the engine... (You can't accept more input without better output!)
It reacts even better to re programming of the ECU by the Superchips Microtuner and/or the Hypertech Power Programmer with better transmission shift management and on-the-fly engine management. Many report upwards of 5 MPG increases with just the tuners...
The claims of the tuners to give you increases of 80 HP are correct, with dyno verification of some owners. That's a 33% increase !!!
I don't care to defend my purchase ---
because it is MY purchase and it is the right purchase for MY situation...
But it amazes me to see the "I've never had experience with that, but I know what I'm talking about" argument...
I know there are MANY more important battles we could spend our time on...
But, after all, isn't that why we fight so hard to defend our "turf", because it is our "turf", not "their's" ???
If you got 'em, hug 'em - EVERY DAY - your children need that!
#351 of 423 ford vs chevy
Dec 17, 2002 (8:48 pm)
I believe most people have set in their minds that they are either a ford person or chevy. We have a 2000 limited psd to tow our 66 corvette with. I think its a fantastic truck. Its quiet, sound, no rattles or shakes, and great power and mileage. We put in after market items like the 4inch exhaust and a programer (60 extra hp) and filter, and this thing really goes. I would have liked to have a color matching chevy with my trailer and vette, but in my mind the chevys are not in the same ballpark. Every older sub ive been in, rattles, and just seams to wear out a little faster than the fords we have been in. Its all personal opinions, and experiences. Also, my wife looks real good getting out of that limited psd, and the 21mpg on the highway (not towing) looks real good too!
#352 of 423 Arrogance ? Ignorance ?
Jan 06, 2003 (10:48 am)
Ask yourself why you are buying a monster SUV. Do you REALLY need such a large car ? If so, you may be better off with a cargo van, a minivan, a large wagon, or just renting a truck when the occassion arises. Do you NEED to tow stuff all the time ? You may be better off with a diesel-powered truck, then. They're quite a bit cheaper and have quite a bit more torque when a comprably-equipped gasoline-powered truck or SUV.
However, if you are getting a monster SUV to "keep up with the Jones" or boost your self-image, let me ask you this ? How does it feel to throw $40,000+ down the toilet, while at the same time offending everybody else on the road, harming the environment, and supporting terrorism ? 3 for 1 !!