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#302 of 423 Fits in My Garage by afconway Jun 08, 2001 (7:50 am)
I have a 2000 Excursion 4x4 V10 that fits in my standard size garage. I only have to fold in the towing mirrors before I drive it in.   Got this unit as a leftover in January of this year. Great vehicle! Just did a trip a couple of weeks ago to/from Myrtle Beach SC towing my 25 foot travel trailer. It was pleasure to drive. got around 10mpg while towing. Around town and going back and forth to work I get between 14 and 15 MPG.   Saw a report from Ford that the towing limits can be increased to match the Chevy/GMC Suburbans. They have an upgraded hitch that adds 2000lbs to the rating. No other modifications are required. Dealers should be able to order the hitch and replace the existing one on 2000 and 2001 models if you need the extra capacity. Don't know what the cost is. Think the new hitch will be standard on the 2002 model.
#303 of 423 Garage issue, don't know why by starrow68 Jun 09, 2001 (9:11 pm)
Didn't bother to put my 90 2500 Sub with 454 into the garage since we got here when it was 5 years old and it had been sitting out previously. With old wood lift doors any Sub or Ex sized vehicle seems to be an issue. Since we got roll up doors as replacement and moved the extra stuff we pull in the Excursion as long as previously mentioned, we pull in the mirrors, since it is a 3 singles garage. Actually have 3 vehicles in the garage for the first time I can remember.   Enjoy what you drive, you bought it, we do!
#304 of 423 V-10 mileage in 4x4 Excursion by 390gt Jun 11, 2001 (9:24 am)
A previous post stated 10 mpg pulling a 25 ft travel trailer and 14-15 around town. I'm not sure about towing but the best I've seen is 11 around town(all stop and go, no freeway) and 14 - 14.5 on interstate loaded up, at 75 mph. You need the 7.3 L PSD to get 14-15 around town.
#305 of 423 Trying to decide by dan165 Jun 12, 2001 (4:21 am)
After months of problems with a Toyota Sequoia, Toyota has agreed to let me out of my lease next week pending some higher approval. Engine clicking and engine lights coming on were the main problems, and the dealership could not fix it.   I am considering both the Tahoe and the Expedition. I tested both on the weekend and liked them about the same (in different ways). I am also being offered another Sequoia, but I am a little scared given my experience with Toyota. Thoughts?
#306 of 423 Excursion vs. Suburban by pcjr Jun 14, 2001 (7:52 pm)
I've monitored this as well as other topics relating to the Excursion and Suburban for some months now. I'd like to throw my opinion in the mix to those considering either of the two. Having purchased one of each I can speak from a position of experience. My original purchase was a 2000 Excursion LTD 2WD for my wife to use haul the kids back and forth to school. The sheer size and weight of the vehicle gave me a sense of security in knowing that short of tangling with a tractor trailer they should be safe. Fuel economy was not a consideration as gas was still cheap ($1.50 gal). The nightmare began immediately in that within the first few weeks the issues started to surface. Doors that creaked anytime we entered the driveway, a horrendous clunking noise originating under the drivers side floorboard and a significant shake in the front end on any but the smoothest of roads. In an effort to see if this was just a fluke of Fords commitment to quality I checked the Excursion boards daily. I found it both a source of comfort and aggrivation to learn that I was not alone. At one point I actually started to consider all the options of aftermarket modifications to improve the vehicle. Retrofit of Edelbrock or Bilstien shocks, Michelin tires and a new exhaust system to eliminate the tinny resonance. I came about my senses after my forth trip to the dealer to again attempt to have the problems corrected. I dont know if the service manager was sympathetic and strung things out, but after 40+ days of the vehicle sitting at the dealer having the front end disassembled, the body lifted off to replace the body mounts and some door kit installed to correct the creaking doors, California law entitled me to my money back via repurchase by Ford. Mid point thru this extended service visit I purchased a 2001 Surburban 1500 LT 2WD. If you consider ride quality, fit and finish and comfort important in your purchase decision it is my experience that the Suburban is just alot better vehicle. While it took just short of three months to complete the repurchase, today I turned the Excursion back to Ford and walked away with all monies I paid with an exception of a mileage charge for the first 850 trouble free miles prior to its first trip for service. Hats off to Ford for making right on a poorly constructed vehicle. I offer this only as my experience and recognize that others are happy with their Ford purchase. Fortunately I was in a position to purchase a replacement when Ford was offering a Focus as rental wheels while the Excursion was under repair. If you intend to tow to maximum capacity then perhaps the Excursions for you, if your using it for moderate towing and hauling more precious cargo, I'd opt for the Suburban.
#307 of 423 Hi pcjr by steve_ HOST Jun 14, 2001 (8:42 pm)
Mind sharing what the mileage charge was in your particular circumstances? Steve Host Vans, SUVs and Aftermarket & Accessories Message Boards
#308 of 423 Excursion Troubles by palfito01 Jun 15, 2001 (5:42 am)
pcjr Good For You!   I am getting real close on making the same decision on trying to turn in my Excursion. I really love the size and look of the Ford but I do not think I can take the creaks, clunks and shaking over any bumps of this vehicle any longer. Can you tell me who you talked to at Ford and what the process was(I live in Wisconsin).   I would appreciate any help in this matter.   Thanks!
#309 of 423 Mileage Charge and Process by pcjr Jun 15, 2001 (7:11 am)
I dot recall the exact amount of the mileage charge but around $0.30 a mile comes to mind. I was informed the law allows the manufacturer to be compensated for the use of the vehicle prior to it becoming problematic. In response to the request on how the system works I can relate my experience here in California but your laws may differ. The law here is 4 attempts by the dealer to correct a significant problem. I believe that significant was defined as a problem that effects the safety, operation or value of the vehicle. In addition to that if the vehicle is out of service (at the dealer for repair)for a cumulative total of 30 days during the first 18 months or 18K miles it becomes a "lemon" and your rights kick in regardless of reason or number of repair attempts. In my case I retained an attorney who specializes in the so called "Lemon Law". A search on-line will probably find you one in your area. While I am sure that one could achieve the same results without getting a lawyer. In my case I just dint have the time and dint want to invest in learning the law so that I could argue my rights to Ford. After the attorney reviewed my paper work (service orders and my time line summarizing our problems) he submitted what was called a demand letter. This basically was a letter that demanded that Ford abide by the provisions of the lemon law and repurchase my vehicle. It took about 3 weeks for Ford to respond to the letter which they agreed in principle to make things right. I believe here they had 4 weeks to respond or you win by default. It then took Ford another 3 weeks or so to send their formal offer of repurchase which indicated the amounts they were reimbursing. These included my down payment, registration, sales tax and all of my monthly payments. Then there was a reduction in the offer price to reflect the mileage up until the time I had the Excursion in for the first repair. In addition Ford was to payoff the remaining balance of the note. Once that offer was received I accepted and the paper work was sent back to process which again took about 3 weeks due to an error which was picked up by the vehicle repurchase departments auditor at Ford. After the error was corrected the paper work was sent to the dealer I purchased the vehicle from. I scheduled an appointment to take in the Excursion, they inspected it for damage and wear, I signed the documents and received my check. All total took about 3 months which was long due to the error in the offer paper work. I hope this helps you to better understand the process I went through. I am normally one who addresses and resolves problems on my own. An inherited trait I think Ive perfected through years of real world business experience! Every product has the potential for problems. Its how you address and correct the problem that is most important. I was not at all pleased by Fords product, I was however pleased with the resolution. My advice... If you have a problem get it in right away... document by means of a log your conversations and experiences because unless you have nothing else in your life to distract you, you are going to forget something... Finally I felt that when all else failed legal representation got it handled quickly and was well worth the cost to me. Good luck on getting your situation resolved Palfito 01
#310 of 423 Dan 165 Saga by heatwave3 Jun 15, 2001 (5:51 pm)
I read your horror story on the Sequoia forum. After looking at the Expedition and Yukon, you owe it to yourself to drive a GMC Denali. Bigger motor than the Expedition or Yukon, AWD not available in the others and lots of luxury features really worth checking out. Good Luck.
#311 of 423 PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! by thebeast2001 Jul 09, 2001 (1:19 pm)
2001 FORD EXCURSION LIMITED 4X4 V10 Come on now anti-EXCURSION folks! I am getting tired of your bitching and griping about the Ford Excursion. I bought mine two months ago and put it 4 thousand miles and I did not have any problems such as the AIR CONDITIONING, CLUNKING, ROAMING issues. I am just plain tired of some people complaining about this 8th wonder of the world SUV. By the way, I call mine, THE BEAST hehehe. First of all, the only issue that I found out is the wallowy ride and the gas mileage. HECK! if you can afford a 44 grand SUV, why will you complain anyways??? If you like a car ride, why not buy a BMW 740il??? But for mine, I changed my shocks and suspension when I got it so, the wallowy ride was never been an issue to me. For the gas mileage between the SUBURBAN and EXCURSION is not that far. Damn, it's only a mile/gallon difference. It is really understandable that these big autos will consume gas tremendously, so why complain about it? Don’t be so dumb and stupid about it. So PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE!, do not complain about those impertinent things such as gas mileage, etc. I had enough of those things already and it is time for me to speak. I really love my SUV, I had a Suburban k2500 before and I believe that the Excursion looks better and far outdoes the SUBURBANers. IN MY OWN OPINION, those people who keeps bitching and griping about the EX haven't experienced to own this one or just plainly haven't driven one! So stop being JEALOUS!

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