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Ford Excursion, Chevrolet Suburban, GMC Yukon XL, SUV
#263 of 423 Get a real tow vehicle
Mar 12, 2001 (12:14 pm)
Irc1: The real "king" of tow vehicles is the 2001 3/4 ton Suburban or Yukon XL with the 8.1L engine and 4.10 rear. 30 more hp than a V-10 Excursion (GM 340hp vs Ford 310hp), 30 more ft lbs of torque (GM 455 ft lbs vs Ford 425 ft lbs), better gas mileage and 2000lbs more tow capacity (GM 12,000 lbs vs Ford 10,000lbs).
GM has no match for heavy load towing when compared with any other non-commercial/non-military vehicle with 4 wheels.
#264 of 423 Where are Suburbans made? by ecs4tru
Mar 13, 2001 (8:48 pm)
I understand that Suburbans come from either Wisconsin or Mexico...I ordered a vehicle stipulating manufacture in Wisconsin, but the dealer called today to tell me the vehicle which is expected next week was made in Mexico. I'd appreciate any comments helpful to this situation. Please advise as to Mexico plant quality and buyer experience. How does this fit with, "made in the heartland of America?" Thanks.
#265 of 423 subscrusion and others Sub to Exc
Mar 16, 2001 (10:11 am)
The interior of the Sub has been shrinking for years, owned a '71 (CarryAll actually), an '82 6.2L and '90 454. Started out hauling horses and now mostly put in sled dogs, don't ask. But when looking at new Sub's I couldn't fit in 4 airline kennels side by side from back of front seat to tail gate in new Sub. In the Excursion, it works, still with a tight side alley fit but no fit in the Sub. So now I drive weekends in the 4x2 Limited V-10 and love it, but it is not an everyday car. Trip computer says getting 11.5mpg but last two tanks checking fill up say 12 plus a fraction doing simple math.
Not sure where the problems with GMC/Chevy came up on engine tranny problems but did one Trans in the 6.2L and the engine in the 454 both under warranty.
Remember, SUV as a term has only been around, less than ten years? These are just oversized wagons when you get out of the ego thing.
#266 of 423 Mileage with a Diesel Excursion
Mar 17, 2001 (3:36 pm)
Can anyone provide MPG values for the Excursion Diesel?
#267 of 423 Diesel Excursion
Mar 21, 2001 (8:05 am)
I have an excursion, and I have to say it is wonderful. Driving it, parking it, no big deal. I am a mother of four and had a suburban before my excursion. No contest. Excursion has won me over. It does fit in my garage. I have a super large garage. My husbands 4 door diesel 4wd ford truck also fits with plenty of room to spare. However, there are some drive through windows I cannot fit in. Parking garages are another task. A recent trip to New Or leans cost us a little extra to park. Acceleration is another matter. But living in Louisiana it's not a big deal. Fuel mileage has improve with the help of special chip. I love the rear detection.
Mar 24, 2001 (12:28 am)
I'm going to make every effort to keep my head off the chopping block. It's all just IMO, so please bear with me.
From what I can tell, there's really no reason for the Excursion, other than Ford was getting pissed off at how GM was raking in the profits with the Suburban.
Unless you REALLY think you need the extra two cubic feet of cargo space, or youre a die-hard Ford fan, then theres really no reason to buy one of these monsters.
The Chevrolet Suburban/Yukon XL 2500 is lighter, more powerful (with the new engines), better on gas(which probably shouldn't matter anyways if you can afford one of these) and can tow more. The new Duramax Deisel outclasses the Power Stroke (that IS an informed opinion), and the 8100 big-block simply cannot compare to the Ford V10.
Moreover, I hear Chevy is introducing a SIX-DOOR Suburban for 2002. Wow.
Now, mind you, I would NEVER consider buying one of these monstrosities, i'd rather get a Crew Cab HD if I had to seat four or five (I NEVER want that many kids...) and tow a 30-foot boat or camper.
Around here, there has been a lot of used Excursions up for sale. Wether it's first-year peices falling off, absolutely dismal fuel economy, or people waking up to the fact that theyre driving something they really don't need, sales of the Excursion have dropped.
#269 of 423 Reason for Excursion
Mar 26, 2001 (6:48 am)
Nothing falling off our Excursion. The build quality is excellent and it feels very solid after 14,000 miles since July. Have you driven one? I suggest you drive a broken in V10 or PSD, they get better with more miles. Actually mileage, even with the V10 is pretty good 11 and 14 with all 5 kids on board. My wife's Expedition has more second seat room than the Sub. I see alot of reasons for the Excursion. I think alot of Sub owners have switched over. The only advantage my be the ride of the Sub. but with a few upgrades to the Excursion(improved shocks and steering stabilizer) the ride improves drastically. Besides if I had bought a Sub/Yuk I would have to lift the front end to level it. It looks like a 2wd in the front and a 4wd from the rear. That extra room in the Excursion makes a big difference in everyday use, ask my 6'2 14 year old with size 14 feet.
#270 of 423 My Reasoning
Mar 26, 2001 (7:36 pm)
If you are going to rationalize smaller & lighter is better, then you should seriously consider Chevys own Astrovan. I've owned 2 and they are a great vehicle. Other than the modest passenger seat, the Astro has more room than the Suburban and costs $15k less! It can tow 4k-5k lbs.
I really don't care how many Excursions Ford sells. They sold a million Superduties and the Ex is based on them. Parts will never be a problem. Here in So FL, Subs are always $5k more than the Ex. You'll pay an extra $100/month to save that $20 in gas. That can buy a lot of gas, and I can further limit my costs by not using the Ex when I don't need to go big. The Exc is bigger & costs less. How can you argue that?
The real answer will be over the long haul when we find out if Ford put that extra weight to good use, or what did Chevy take out to save 1500 lbs.
Mar 30, 2001 (11:21 pm)
All you people sound like a bunch of whining babies. Get a life. It's a truck. So what if the 8.1L chevy engine can pull the Excursion to Kentucky and back or the Excursion sits really high for those little minded people that feel like they have more power. Get a life! Good grief. I've owned the expedition, Yukon 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton. (don't need a vehical that drives like a school bus so haven't bought the Excursion) and they're all good trucks. Pros and cons of all of them. Though, if the expedition stuck another 18 inches on the back and only lengthing the wheel base 8 inches, i'd buy two of them. The sad thing is that you guys have such poor self esteems that you have to find it in your trucks. No wonder half of you are divorced. Your trucks are more important than serving your wife.