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Ford Excursion, Chevrolet Suburban, GMC Yukon XL, SUV
#223 of 423 Excursion ordering help & more
Nov 05, 2000 (4:32 am)
Any Ford Excursion brochure should be able to answer most of your questions.
Ans, Limited Excursions come with the mold, XLTs do not. You can take them off on the Limiteds but wouold have to scrape off some double sided tape. I heard of this from someone, I'd keep it if I had the Limited, maybe repaint it the same color as the whole truck. Seats are the same, the front middle 9th seat does not come in leather. All Limiteds and XLTs with Conveninece package which also has leather have a center console instead of the seat. Banks I heard is good, so are other upgrades for the diesel. Kenne Belle supercharger for the V10 but why?? 300+hp is enough for me. Check out ford-diesel.com forums for more info. As long as you get the Convenience package with the XLT, it's almost the same as the Limited, except no wood, no Limited embroidery and mine had no rear sensor warning thing. I think fog lights are an option on the XLT. I had to have silver so I had to get an XLT. Just check out the brochure, that's the most accurate info. Forget the guys that drive a pinto at the dealer.
FYI, there are a few changes on what's standard and what's an option between the 2000 and 2001 models.
#224 of 423 Power Pedals
Nov 11, 2000 (3:17 am)
Anyone know if Ford will offer power pedals for the Ex?
#225 of 423 Correction 96 Suburban. . .sorry
Nov 18, 2000 (6:54 am)
have a 97 Expedition with 58K and have never
had a problem. My wife wants a 3rd seat for our
children and a chevy dealer has a Blk 96 Suburban
K1500 with 4WD. It has 64K and as he claims " good
Maint. record". The dealer will trade straight
across.Is there any advice on this model from
anyone ? I'd love to hear an opinion.
#226 of 423 Sub. for Exped.
Nov 19, 2000 (3:31 pm)
Before you trade the Expedition for the Suburban, go take a look at the Edmunds Suburban Townhall site. The number of blown engines and trannys is amazing.
#227 of 423 US MARINE: = not too much income
Nov 23, 2000 (4:26 am)
Help me out here... I've searched the car lots and seem to find the 2001 Suburban on of the best vehicles on the lots. I've read the problems some are having with the older models, is the 2001 LT w/ the 5.3 worth almost 40,000? Please advise!
#228 of 423 Re: K & N Excursion Mileage
Nov 24, 2000 (6:53 am)
I put a K & N filter in, not for the milage, just to let the engine breathe a little better and for the cost, it's cheaper than replacing the filter a couple of times.
I have not seen any noticable increase in milage....
Dec 05, 2000 (12:05 am)
If you would of been a real man you would of bought a FORD EXCURSION. Just you wait when your trans goes out and the dealer won't repair it for you. Than you'll be wishing you would of bought a real truck and not the mickey mouse mexican made sub. My deepest sympathy for you.
#230 of 423 Suburban Vs. Excursion; Go Chevy
Dec 05, 2000 (1:35 am)
I just purchased a 2000 Suburban 4X4 and it is a fantastic truck. I drove the Excursion and found that although very well appointed, the ride and overall performance was lacking. When I went to the Ford dealership, the first two I wanted to test drive wouldn't even start!! I finally got behind the wheel of the diesel and found it very loud on the interior and the ride was much like a tank with leather seats.
Ford is currently having sales issues with the Excursion for a number of reasons: 1) It is too high to fit in most garages and parkades. The dealership had the "manager demo" that had to be lowered just to be used in downtown areas. (This is funny because I believe that I read the clearance of the Suburban is greater, headroom difference is negligible, but overall height is 7 inches lower than the Excursion). 2) The truck rides very poorly. 3) Fuel economy is beyond brutal. A person AT THE DEALERSHIP stated that you do not want the V10. Avg economy is around 3 in the city and 10 on the highway. OUCH! The diesel is better, but very loud and expensive.
Now, onto chevy. I owned a 95 Chev Z71 extended cab before this and found it to be an outstanding truck. Other than routine maintenance, I never had any issues that required any expensive or lenghthy repair times. (I fixed the seat that I broke through misuse and replaced the starter beginning to end in less than an hour). That's IT!
The new Suburban (2000+) has some incredible improvements. It's ride and comfort are second to none (including Expeditions) and are a real pleasure to drive. The ladies of the house should also feel comfortable driving this as visibility is good and steering is very light. I purchased the LS model (Loaded except for leather as leather is too cold in Canada!!) It has ALL the creature comforts one could ask for. The new 5.3 vortec is very modest on gas compared to the Ford products, yet power and towing capabilities are not compromised. I average close to 19-20 in mixed driving... Let's see Ford pull this off!!
I honestly went into this purchase with an open mind and researched and drove everything I could to come to this decision. Let's face it, these are not cheap vehicles and this decision should not be taken lightly. All things considered fairly and objectively, the Suburban wins hands down. Believe me, if Ford had the best, a Ford is what I would be driving, but it simply does not have all the technology offered in the Chevy and has a lot of refinements needed in order to compete.
Right now is a great time to buy a 2000. I was offered a great deal PLUS .9% for 4 years or 2.9% for 5 years (keep in mind this was in Canada).
Good luck in your decision and I hope the information above is helpful.
#231 of 423 Sub vs X , Go X
Dec 05, 2000 (12:54 pm)
"Rides like a tank with leather seats" hmmm sounds good to me. That tank-like protection is one reason I bought an X for my wife and 4 kids. Also Suburban owners will be into their second or third engines just on normal wear when the Powerstroke Diesel is just geting broken in. I'm not even considering egine problems. I too was torn between the two, , Subs. vs. X., until I visited the Suburban website at Edmunds. Every other message is about a blown engine or tranny. Some people may luck out and get a good product, but overall the reliability of GM products is lousy. I then test drove an X and owned it 15 minutes later. And I got 0.9% for 5 years.
#232 of 423 What website danjon12
Dec 05, 2000 (2:42 pm)
"Every other message is about a blown engine or tranny"You were reading a different suburban website than the rest of were.