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Ford Excursion vs Chevy Suburban/GMC Yukon XL - The battle of the titans

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#21 of 423 j2smell - gas mileage - important by joelis Jan 31, 2000 (8:59 pm)
Either your engine is not broken in yet to see better numbers than 13.5, or the Suburban is that much heavier than an extended cab Z71 Silverado? I'm getting 16 average in my 99 Silverado. I've got a 2000 Suburban on order right now. If I knew that it would only get 13 I would not have ordered it. Do you see it getting any better or not? Thanks
#22 of 423 Ralph by joelis Jan 31, 2000 (9:12 pm)
Regarding Towing - I am going by what was reported in both MotorTrend and Car&Driver a few months ago where they compared the two vehicles. They loaded up a trailer with the same weight and ran side by side comparisons. The Suburban pulled away from the Ford in each test. This was also on the C&D tv show a few months ago. Obviously I have not tried it for myself. I have test driven an Excursion, but it felt too much like a SuperDuty F250 ride to me. I actually do not mind the looks of it, I just don't want to spend $40k to get bounced around in a truck. I am looking for comfort first. What is the gas milage like on it? I would guess in reality about 11
#23 of 423 Joe by ralphinnj Feb 01, 2000 (6:30 am)
The gas mileage seems to cover a large range depending on driving habits. Like I said before, I have read all of the posts here and at Ford-diesel.com, and here's what to expect from an Excursion: Stop & Go City Driving: 9-10 Highway Driving at 55-65: 13-14 Highway Driving at 70-80: 11-12 I haven't read much worse than 9-10 without a load, but I have seen some high numbers that I can't explain. One guy in Ford-diesel.com (I think his screen name is wawwi or something like that) claims 15-16 ON AVERAGE with his V-10 (NOT the diesel), and has a link to his web page with all the data. All in all, I think the average guy out there is gonna get about 12-13 (unless you really have a heavy foot). As far as the towing goes, I didn't read the article you mention, but it makes sense, i.e., both motors have roughly 300hp (if they tested the gas versions), but the Excursion is heavier to start, so it is at a disadvantage. Be interesting to see how the diesels would match up. Anyway, if speed/acceleration is the key factor, the Burb might be better. I was focusing more on the safety factor. I think a lot of guys here that have towed heavy loads will say that safety is more important than bolting out of the gate. Yes, you are right about the ride; the Excursion is stiffer. If ride smoothness is high on your list, then the Burb is probably a better choice (unless you have to tow a 10,000 pound trailer regularly....in that case, the Burb's ride will be noticeably influenced by the load whereas the Ex's won't be as badly affected). Hope that helps, RNL
#24 of 423 Comparison by was67 Feb 01, 2000 (6:48 am)
I test drove both and decided on the Ford. While the Suburban was more car-like in its ride quality, the Excursion offered the heavy-duty, truck-like ruggedness I was looking for. In addition, I really don't like the looks - inside or out - of the new Suburban. I remember laughing out loud when I first saw the front grille on a late-model Silverado and must say it doesn't look any better on Chevy's full-size SUV. Add to that one of GM's cheesy-looking interiors and the new Suburban has zero appeal to me. (This is a subjective POV, of course.)
#25 of 423 Seen Dodge's? by ralphinnj Feb 01, 2000 (12:18 pm)
When ya think of big SUV's, you start with the pickup truck platforms. The big Chevy/GM Silverado's/Sierra's led to the Suburban (much modified), the Ford F150 led to the Expedition and the SD's to the Excursion. What about the Dodge Ram? No model in the US, BUT, I saw one in Mexico! it's here: http://www.car-truck.com/chryed/news/n020399.htm Reminds me a lot of the Durango. One thing noticably missing: no back doors! Thoughts?
#26 of 423 Ralph by joelis Feb 01, 2000 (5:02 pm)
I agree with you on the fact the each truck has its use. If you are doing a lot of heavy hauling (ie. 5th wheel or big cabin cruiser) then the Excursion will be the vehicle of choice because you will have more control of the load - who cares about 0 to 60 times in those situations anyway. If you are using it as a daily commuter with the 'occasional' towing need, then I prefer the Suburban on the better 'empty' ride and pickup. I guess this post is useful after all...
#27 of 423 full size dodge by mako28 Feb 01, 2000 (8:16 pm)
Crysler has been working on the big SUV thing latley. For a while they were going to give Jeep the honor, simply because they would be able to make more cash off the Jeep name. However, Jeep is big on maintaining its image of "great off-roader" and we all know how difficult it would be to make these big SUV's an actuall off-roader. They're deseigned as work horses ( very nice ones!), not off-roaders. ( they high center very easily, so Jeep's biggy would have to have a HUGE lift.) After a while, where they were seriously thinking about it, they decided to scrap the idea. So I would imagine that they will go back to Dodge in a while and figure it out. That is unless Jeep decides to do it. Jeep is pretty good about hiding its new deseigns. ( the new cherokee was going to be released next year but the current cherokee is doing so well they are going to keep it for a while. Anyhow, they've managed to hide this thing incredibly well! So who knows.)
#28 of 423 Ford and reliability by protravel Feb 02, 2000 (4:02 am)
Read the Chevy post's on the Yukon,Suburban and find all the guys in the shop with tranny problems at 1,500 miles. And how BAD the dealers are treating them. 250,000 miles on my aerostar plus survived a head on collision. Thank you I'll stick with Ford.
#29 of 423 protravel by joelis Feb 02, 2000 (5:18 pm)
Get your facts straight. There has been no problem with Transmissions. Some are coming off the line with a harmonic vibration which is quickly fixed with a tweak in the rear suspension. No big deal. I bought over 30 vehicles from dealers in my lifetime, and have had more problems with service from Ford dealers than from GM. That is the main reason why I prefer GM these days. It really doesn't matter who the Manufacturer is, it is all based on if you get a good service dealership or not. By the way, one of those vehicles I have owned in the past was a 88 Aerostar, which gave me many problems in the two years I had it.
#30 of 423 Chevy and reliability by gnuss Feb 04, 2000 (3:39 am)
I'm currently a very unhappy owner of a '97 suburban 1500. With 50K miles, I have been through multiple wheel bearing replacements, broken power steering pump shafts, and alternator. The rear end has had two seals fail and the fan blower motor has been replaced twice. When the fan control knob broke on the rear control panel I found that I couldn't replace the $2.00 knob, I had to replace the whole $90 switch assembly! A poor design, poor product quality, and poor customer service. When it's not in the shop, it does tow nice, however. I will never buy another Chevrolet product. Period. I have not looked at the 2000 suburban. While they may have changed a few style elements the fundamental flaws remain. I will be test driving the Excursion next week. Thanks to all for providing their input on their comparisons. To those that plan to go with the Suburban I have one piece of advice: Get the extended warranty

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