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You are in the Ford Excursion
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Ford Excursion, Chevrolet Suburban, GMC Yukon XL, SUV
#110 of 423 Everyone gets a turn
May 09, 2000 (11:40 pm)
The longest and most energetic posts I have seen, glad I took a look. Burb vs Excursion is in the eye of the beholder. Ford has a great product, I have owned several. Chevys are great products, I have owned several (the 93 Blazer was a lemon). I had a 99 Tahoe wanted bigger cause I am older and bigger and wanted the comfort. I now have a 2000 Burb and am happy, isn't that what it's all about,
happiness. As a colleague says big wins Ford or Chevy. I read an article concerning small cars hit by large SUVs, only accounts for 5%, the rest of the small guys creamed was at the hands of larger cars, commercial vehicles, semi's and what ever else is left. SUVs get a bad rap cause they are
considered rich guys toys and the small car owners feel slighted. I am not rich but comfortable and like the large feel of the Burb. We mainly use it for long distance travel which we do a moderate amount of. Mileage is 14 to 18, not great but good. The Excursion will not fit in my garage. But I like the look but like the Burb better. Our other car is a 2000 Honda Accord SE. If Honda built a full size SUV and I could afford it thats what I would buy. I found as I got older my tastes changed some for the better some not but I like big vehicles. What ever you want thats ok with me as long as you are happy. Weight wins unless you are hit by a semi so there always seems to be a bigger kid on the block but we don't have to pick fights just admire the other guys vehicle, compliment him on it you have made a friend. I really love original Shelby Cobras even a 289 HiPO
would be ok don't need the 427 but thats really out of my league. Happy motoring, drive responsibly, live and let live.
#111 of 423 TOWING W/ BURB (BIGGERMEANY2)
May 10, 2000 (4:35 am)
I have a 8000# TT that I tow with my new EX. Until A month ago I was towing it with my 92 dodge van 2500. Now I realize that neither of these is a sub, but the effect is still the same in that a 3/4 ton will feel better in the suspension dept as compared to a 1500/ 1/2 ton reguardless of who make its. Of course now, everyone will tar and feather me for that statement, but I have owned and towed with chevy, dodge and ford. All of them had there good sides and all of them have had there bad sides. The main reason I purchased the EX is that all the chev dealers I went to did not want to deal. As a matter of fact, because of the experience that I had with them, I don't think that I would by another chevy any time soon. I also needed something that holds a lot of people (6 w/ 2 dogs), a canoe and bikes on top. The dodge has recently turned over 110,000 mi so I decided to retire it from towing. If your a hard core chevy man and plan to do a lot of towing, go with the 2500.
#112 of 423 Towing
May 10, 2000 (11:48 pm)
I don't plan on towing, never have but I feel you are right #115. The 1500 will tow but not as well as the 2500. The EX is on the 250 frame so it should haul almost anything. I like the looks of the EX just didn't need the size. To each his on. I also had initial dealing problems with Chevy and GMC but stuck with my dealer i bought my 99 Tahoe from. A Burb finally came in and they gave us a decent deal, repeat customer loyalty does work sometimes. I feel Chevy got caught with too much demand and too little product and they all got greedy, chevy and the dealers. That could come back to haunt them. I am happy with my Burb and am glad your EX is working for you #115. It all ends up as choice for what ever reason. Besides the EX would not fit my garage and the Post Office would not give me a zip code for the rear of the EX. Happy motoring Ford or Chevy.
#113 of 423 They got caught
May 11, 2000 (6:37 am)
Chevy got caught putting out a BAD product, and was playing catch up, an they still are. The too little product, was due to them trying to get it right.
Which caused dealer shortage, hence absolutely no discounts, and the take the sticker price or leave it.
May 11, 2000 (4:48 pm)
Are you talking about the new or old Suburban?
Explain BAD to the +90% of owners who love em and don't have any problems...
#115 of 423 Reply to #117 (protravel)
May 12, 2000 (2:06 am)
Sounds like you must be a Ford Motor Co. employee. As joelis said most Burb owners are extremely happy with the 2000 Burb. And I had several Burbs in the 92-99 year group and was extremely happy with all those too. I do believe Ford got some of the things right with the EX, better floor mats, swing-out rear windows, couple other minor things I don't remember. But WHO was playing catch up?? As I recall the Suburban has been around since the 30s or 40s and the EX came out in, oh yeah, 2000.
#116 of 423 bowtiebill, ignore protravel
May 12, 2000 (3:14 am)
He only sees ford blue. I thoroughly tested an Ex because it was my first choice. I found it to be crude, although I did not get a chance to drive it with the PSD that protravel has. I find it hard to believe that a diesel would make the thing any faster or quieter. Remember that ford slapped the Ex together with the smallest budget ever used to bring out a "new" truck according to a ford press release. I believe it!
May 12, 2000 (7:33 am)
I'm NOT slamming Chevy, only explaining, the attitude of Chevy dealers, TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT ATTITUDE and supply. Yes the Suburban is a good vehicle, as is the Excursion.
And, yes the people who bought and were LUCKY enough to get a 2000 got good ones. Just passing on comments from other sites and Suburban builders far more wise than you or me, regarding supply of the Burb. Chevy had problems,work'd on the problems delay in shipping product, thus kept price at sticker or above PERIOD.
Now you Chevy boys can get off your, my toys are better than your toys horse.
And for your info bowtiebill the Excurion was based on the F250 and that's been around HOW LONG??
My point exactly bowtie Chevy has been building "Burbs" since the cave man...you think they could get it right by now.
Now I am slamming Chevy thanks to bowties big mouth.
May 12, 2000 (7:53 am)
Gee I don't know where I got the idea about Suburnbans being crap, OH I KNOW right here on Edmunds. Just a few posts, I didn't have all night to copy ALL the bad news. Enjoy your Burb.
My Suburban experience has been the opposite. It's
been terrible, and the reason I switched from GM,
probably never to return, for example:
In less than 50,000 miles on a loaded '94 K2500
6.5L TD, the thing:
Had four injection pumps;
Several related pump wiring harnesses & black
8-10 of those worthless Delco batteries;
A bad seal in the rear differential because it ate
grass (On a 4x4??? Can't Great Mistakes (GM) even
get that one right?);
large problem- the radiator failed. A mechanic
friend fixed it for me, but it still cost $700
The problems we
have had mechanically have made owning our suburban
a headache.First there was a problem with the
front brakes.At 33000 miles and left front rotor
needed to be replaced.A few months later, after...
Beware of transmission troubles
had a fuel pump replaced
because it was "noisy"
I have had a miserable experience with my 1996
Suburban 4WD LT and frankly I am currently looking
to replace it with something foreign....
#119 of 423 Why bother?
May 12, 2000 (8:31 pm)
You can go to any popular topic in this town hall and find bad news that someone has had. Protravel, you really didn't make a point, other than you might be a little touchy to ???
I think people have stated the obvious here already. Both vehicles have their good points and bad points as stated, and its up to each individual to decide which "good points" are more important for them to have.
Personally: For Looks - I think the EX looks mean, and dressed up with the right accessories, would look awesome. For Driving comfort - The Sub wins hands down, it drives like a car.
I would have one of each in my garage if that was possible, (but I don't think the EX will fit...).