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Chevrolet Tracker, Suzuki Sidekick, Suzuki Grand Vitara, Suzuki Vitara, SUV
Apr 13, 2008 (2:38 pm)
We all know engineers underrate their tow ratings for vehicles. The reason Chev does is obvious as they want you to buy a bigger truck. Can't have a small Chevy truck pulling the same as a full size half ton P/U. Here's where the conspiracy theory comes in. I bet you seven ways to Sunday Chevy "CONVINCED" Suzuki to match their underated tow rating for the Grand Vitara. My 2003 2.5L V-6 LT 4 dr is rated for 1500lbs and yet there is another web-site that states a 3500lbs ratings. The same year Suzuki XL-7 with the 2.7L and a whole lot heavier truck is 3000lbs. Could I tow 3000lbs safely with my Tracker? Watchcha think?
#1678 of 1845 Re: Towing [poorcruzer]
Apr 13, 2008 (3:04 pm)
is there a difference in Brakes between the 2.5 tracker and the 2.7 suzuki. that might have something to do with towing. Not the fact of power but the ability to STOP when you need too...
#1679 of 1845 Re: Towing [poorcruzer]
Apr 14, 2008 (1:12 am)
The reason Chev does is obvious as they want you to buy a bigger truck.
That's not obvious to me. Quality engineers know (a) that lives are on the line and (b) that irresponsible people will push the safety margins to their limit then seek massive damages when their luck runs out. I think prudence trumps conspiracy in this case.
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#1680 of 1845 tracker bad shaking
Apr 17, 2008 (5:23 pm)
can someone please give me some ideas of what my problem could be. i already did a partial tune up, changed the motor mounts, had a computer diagnostic check done, and found nothing!!! but my car shakes in drive or reverse at a still like if it were to stall really bad. and it gets worse when turning the air on... please help...
#1681 of 1845 Re: tracker bad shaking [cheech73]
Apr 17, 2008 (6:52 pm)
Without seeing the rig this is a shot in the dark from a psuedo BYM.
1) harmonic engine balancer- my Tercel went bad on me, caused roughness at idle.
2) Clean your thottle body, it may have carbon build up around the butterfly valve not enough air getting by to maintain a smooth idle. A toothbrush and some throttle body cleaner should do the trick.
3) if you haven't already, take it to a Suzuki dealer.
#1682 of 1845 Re: Towing [arkainzeye]
Apr 17, 2008 (7:06 pm)
You have a point, so I did some checking. Could not for the love of God or money could I find the dimensions for a 2003 Suzuki XL7 brake rotor. The 2003 Chev is 11.3" dia by .67" thickness with a 2987lb curbweight. The 2003 Suzuki XL7 curb weight ranged from 3582 to 3781 for 4x4 with auto. One article even stated a curb weight of 3825. Now that's a 500+ to 800+lb difference, plus think of all the stuff you can load into a XL7 compared to a Tracker or GV and tow 1500lbs more than a Tracker or GV. You may be able to stuff more rotor behind a 16" rim than the 15" on my rig, but not enough to accomodate that much more weight and towing capacity. Plus the XL7 was recalled for rotor breaking apart if applied for any great length of time travelling down hill. Which makes me suspect their running close to the same if not the same rotors as us.
If anyone can find the dimensions for a 2003 XL7 rotor please submit them.
#1683 of 1845 Re: tracker bad shaking [poorcruzer]
Apr 17, 2008 (7:52 pm)
would you happen to know what it would cost for replacing this and is it worth replacing.. i have a 99 tracker with 87k miles...
i did clean the throttle body it was done when i had the partial tune up..
lastly why a Suzuki dealer??
and thank you very much for replying...
Apr 18, 2008 (7:32 am)
I am the new owner of a 2002 2WD chevy tracker with 68,000 miles on the V-6 motor. I drove it to work a few days and noticed a bad oil leak. Is this common on this motor or what might cause it. I have no history on the vehicle pryor to me owning it. It does run good and didn't notice any thing unusual.
#1685 of 1845 Re: tracker bad shaking [cheech73]
Apr 18, 2008 (3:11 pm)
All Chevrolet Trackers are rebadged Suzuki Grand Vitara's. They were built on the same assembly line in Ingersoll Ontario Canada at the CAMI plant. If you look carefully you will spot Suzuki written on parts like the air filter housing or other cosmetic parts. Most of the parts electrical and others are Denso parts, if the parts are from Japan they will be labelled Nippon Denso.
The entire truck was designed in Japan, it is the reason why the rear door opens opposite to Jeep rear doors. The Japanese drive on the other side of the road so when they park on the street they don't have to walk around the rear door when loading. You will understand if you try and do an oil change on a 2.5L V-6 and you have to try and squeeze the oil filter between the steering column and cross members, all the time cursing Suzuki for not putting the oil filter on the other side of the motor where's there tons of room. On Japanese trucks there is tons of room.
I am not sure how much of the North American truck is made in Japan, the powertrain, engines, tranny, axles most definately are Japanese made and assembled. The only relation, the Suzuki XL7 which is a longer version of the GV and Tracker, is totally Japanese, being assembled in Hamamatsu Japan.The 2007 XL7 is a GM design based on the Torrent however the engines are a Suzuki assembled GM design. I am looking for a 2004 to 2006 XL7 five passenger not the seven passenger 5sp auto right now to compliment my Tracker.
As for taking your rig to a Suzuki dealer verses Chev is simple. They know your truck back to front and sideways, it's all they know, other than the Suzuki cars. They will know it quirks and quarks and the cheapest way to fix it as the Suzuki parts tend to be cheaper than at Chevrolet.I only take my truck into Suzuki as I trust them to fix it right the first time. Chev dealers don't like seeing these trucks come in as they usually don't have the parts to fix them and they also last so long.
As for the balancer I haven't got a clue and wouldn't want to render a guess.
I hope I have been a little help to explain your truck. They are awesome trucks and with routine maintainance will last a long time. Goodluck
#1686 of 1845 Re: tracker bad shaking [poorcruzer]
Apr 18, 2008 (6:04 pm)
thanks for the reply, i did see some Suzuki badging in the tracker, and i do know its the sister car or copy is the vitara. i didn't know it would be cheaper to bring the car to a Suzuki, i will take you up on that advice next time around... i decided to fix the problem it makes sense what you said after reading up on what you said it might have been... other than the very ruff idling the car while moving is really good and runs good..