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Cadillac Escalade, Cadillac Escalade EXT, Cadillac Escalade ESV, SUV
#657 of 1000 Cadillac Escalade
Nov 01, 2003 (8:00 am)
RCtennis, have you even looked at the Escalade in person? Believe me, I had not been a GM fan for a long time but I think that their products have made a turn around in every area in the last few years.
I haven't purchased anything yet but the Escalade is at the top of my list. Engine-wise, I don't care if it's pushrod or not. The Escalade has a 6.0 liter engine with 345 hp. The gas mileage on a vehicle this size is not going to be high. The Sequoia gets 14 in the city where as the Escalade ESV gets 12 and the ESV has much more room. I found that the Sequoia is rather cheap looking on the inside and I'm not wild about the exterior styling at all. I looked at the 2002 Sequoia when I purchased my 2002 Mercedes. Of course, this is just my opinion and personal taste.
I have not seen the Infiniti QX56 yet but the Nissan Armada is SO unattractive, maybe the Infiniti will look better. I've had many Japanese cars in the past; a '79 Datsun 210, '81 Nissan 210 wagon, '87 Maxima and a '89 Maxima. Also, the '87 and '89 were not totally trouble free. The paint on the '89 was very low quality. They were reliable but I'm not particularly fond of the Japanese products right now (Style-wise).
Also, the Suburban and Yukon don't have any wood on the dash at all. The Denali has it as does the Escalade and it looks really nice, especially on the Cadillac.
So, I think your blanket statement of "do not buy GM" is unwarranted. I really don't think you have really looked at the GM product up close. The fit and finish on these (from what I have personally seen) are very nice and comparable to the Japanese.
#658 of 1000 To compare to a Slade
Nov 01, 2003 (7:54 pm)
Everything needs a more powerful engine.
Toyota Sequoia... it has all of this "sophisticated technology" and gets just 2 mpg better than the Slade while making 105 less hp and 75 less lb/ft of torque.
When Toyota makes a truck capable of doing real work, then it will be worthy of even being in this discussion. As it is right now, the Sequoia is a joke.
The Armada does better (at least it has torque), but it's still got 45 less hp while gettng all of 1 more mpg than the Slade, and has less room. Closer, but still a loser.
#659 of 1000 im not meaning to be biased..
Nov 02, 2003 (4:01 pm)
by saying don't buy GM..i should've said that differently..
but yes, I have seen the new Escalades lately before we bought our new car..but I'm not as impressed as you..<sorry>
i really like how Caddilac has IMPROVED over the years but to me the Escalade is my second choice..i dont know why, but maybe Ive been near one too long..
im just a really big fan of the new QX56 though, which I think should prove to be some very much needed competition to the Escalade as America's "PIMP" car LOL..
and plus, im not trying to compare the Sequioa to the Escalde..i accidentally put it in..
but either way u choose <QX56 OR ESCALADE> uve still made an awesome choice
#660 of 1000 I believe Mark
Nov 02, 2003 (4:52 pm)
Values utility highly.... the extra room in the ESV makes it the vehicle of choice.
Haven't seen the Infiniti yet, but their last few efforts (FX and G35) have been very good.... much better than Toyota/Lexus.
#661 of 1000 Way to wake up a thread, rc.......
Nov 02, 2003 (9:17 pm)
and we all appreciate the apology, because you were all wet, comparing a Sequoia to an Escalade. The Sequoia is all Toyota from front to back, styled by the VP of Monotony. I prefer the Navigator, mainly because of the interior, but there is nothing wrong with the Escalade, the Yukon, Denali or even the humble Suburban. They're damn good trucks, and Japan, who makes very dependable cars, has yet to best North America at what they do best - big stuff. That's just MY opinion. Now be nice, or go back to your Asian threads and leave us alone in our delusions, ok?
#662 of 1000 Cadillac Escalade ESV
Nov 03, 2003 (7:51 am)
Just for the record, if I do decided to get an ESV, it will not be "pimped up". Granted, a lot of them have been but mine will most likely be gray with the standard wheels from the factory. The ESV looks much more Suburban like.
Nov 03, 2003 (3:35 pm)
It's cool, if you are in "that class" to have a duded up burban. I can't imagine why one would buy a truck 50K to bling around it, would rather buy a limo or something.
Nov 04, 2003 (3:39 pm)
and wow u drive a Navigator!! how is it going?? we were about to buy one, but we decided we didn't need all the room (maybe next time)..
i ACTUALLY didnt mean to put the Sequioa in there, if anyone still thinks that!
and Caddys ARE good...im just not as big a fan of them as some other cars..EXCEPT for the new XLR which should probably be tough competition for the SL55 from MB
#665 of 1000 Navigator VS. Escalade
Nov 04, 2003 (3:43 pm)
but why does the Escalade (which looks pretty nice) NOT look as nice as a Navigator, or is it just me?? The Navigator is based on the Expedition and has a TOTALLY DIFFERENT interior and really supped up exterior...but the Escalade which is based on the Suburban has the SAME interior only with wood and some metallic trim added..
honestly, I think they should have tried as much as Lincoln did to make the interior nicer, especially when paying about 50-grand for an SUV
#666 of 1000 The difference...
Nov 04, 2003 (4:25 pm)
The Navigator is doing fine, very happy with it. I chose it over the Slade largely because I like the 2WD version, and with the Caddy in 2WD, you get the small engine (5.3L) and still miss out on the running boards, power liftgate & power folding 3rd row seats thing, and the delicious unique interior. The Gator has the 48 valve engine in either version and all that other stuff.