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Cadillac Escalade, Cadillac Escalade EXT, Cadillac Escalade ESV, SUV
May 06, 2002 (3:01 pm)
Well, I don't agree with anyone that despises SUVs have the audacity to tell anyone they should only buy a Minivan/van. SUVs, vans, sports cars, exotics, wagons, luxury cars suit different people with different tastes. So what is the problems of badging SUVs? SUVs are not my cup of tea but I do like them and maybe one day own one. Minivans are ugly and has no personality.
Anyhow, I will stop ranting but in the June issue of Motor Trend, there was a great comparison test of the 2003 Navigator vs. Escalades and ML 500 Benz and the Escalade won the comparison test. Although the Navigator was a major improvement over the previous model and has some more safety and power doo-dads than the Cadillac, it came up short in refinement, ride quality, looks, and performance. They said that the Escalade has set the standard of how the luxury SUV should be.
I came away shocked and had a predetermined mindset thinking the Escalade was going to be a dog, come finding out it bested the Navigator and ML 500.
#562 of 1005 SUVs, why so hated?
May 14, 2002 (6:41 pm)
I personally think that GM actually did something right with the Escalade. When you think of great American cars or years past, what do you think of? Is it the smaller cars, with the six cylinder engines? Or is it the outrageous size of a '50 Caddy Eldorado? Or the power of a Shelby Cobra, Charger, or Boss Mustang?
America has always done well with excess, and the Escalade and Navigator are prime examples of that. Heck, the new '03 Nav. even proves that Americans can build world class interiors (provided it doesn't fall apart in six months
Can anyone honestly say that all the Porsches, Ferraris, and even any car with >200HP is being used to it's fullest capacity?
Its the same with SUVs. My friend's father has a yellow 360 Modena, Automatic. He got the "F1" tranny b/c he couldn't drive a stick (poser); anyway, the car is purely a luxury item for him, not at all a performance item at all.
There are many other examples of people who buy a Porsche, even a manual Porsche, and go fast on the street, but never come close to a track, which is the only place one can fully exploit the car's abilities.
I bet the same proportion of SUV owners take their cars offroad as sportscar, and motorbike owners take their cars to the track. So, the msg. is: quit yer whinin'.
May 14, 2002 (6:46 pm)
Aren't just in SUVs. I'd tell the guy with the Modena to get a freekin Luxo car too!
People are always trying to be what they aren't! It's sad very sad.
#564 of 1005 Live in Chicago?
May 15, 2002 (7:47 am)
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May 17, 2002 (5:25 pm)
stacy: regarding your comments "Tell the manufacturers to make a SAFE, RELIABLE, AWD VAN with a LARGE TRUNK and lots of LUXURY to seat at least 6! So sick of hearing all you guys whining about "poussers"!"
Actually GM maybe be ahead of the curve on your request. The design of the Denali, Denali XL and the Escalade recognize that there is a larger market for a powerful, well handling suv that is rarely going to go off-road than there is for a luxury suv with Hummer-like off-road qualities.
Having owned various 4wd vehicles over 20 years, I came to quickly find that off-roading just was not a big enough part of my life to justify carrying around alot of extra hardware like 4wd lo that just never gets used. I couldn't be happier with the AWD setup in my Denali XL and am now convinced I would never want a vehicle without it (provided it has the power to compensate for the extra power needed).
I think GM and Ford (with the AWD Mountaineer) have recogized what customer's really want and I think we will find a whole lot more vehicles being designed with AWD than with trick 4wd systems that can boast about crossing 4 ft ditches, articulating over 2 ft boulders, or racing a cheetah on an African Safari.
The average American SUV owner just doesn't have a need for these capabilities and once consumer's realize the hype doesn't really match their needs, AWD will exceed 4wd systems with lots of bells and whistles that no one ever uses.
#566 of 1005 Actually
May 17, 2002 (7:10 pm)
GM is ahead of the curve even more, as this year they will introduce the first Full-size Vans (yep full-sized vans) with AWD.
#567 of 1005 Escalade & Mold
May 18, 2002 (3:15 pm)
May 17, 2002 Watauga, N.C. -- General Motors Corp. is being sued by a man who says mold in his Cadillac sport-utility vehicle caused permanent injuries that left him suffering chronic depression and unable to work.
#568 of 1005 Escalade hood mounted deflector recomendations?
May 19, 2002 (6:36 pm)
Can anyone offer their specific recomendation on a hood mounted bug/wind deflector for the 2002 Escalade? I'm looking for manufacturer and model that does NOT cause additional cabin air noise and provides some protection for stone chips on the windshield. I have numerous chips in the glass and I don't tailgate!