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j35i1 by j35i1
Oct 22, 1998 (6:33 pm)
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the cadillac escalade is a very nice suv . i test drove it the other day it was very comfortable and when i went over speed bumps i barly felt them . I tink its way better then a navigator. On a navigator you would feel every bump on the road
so if i were you i would buy a escalade.
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rsholland by rsholland
Oct 22, 1998 (9:30 pm)
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j35il


I'm also not a huge fan of the Navigator. However, at least the Navigator "appears" somewhat different than the Expedition. When it arrives with the DOHC 5.4 later this year, there will be much greater distinction between the Ford and Lincoln - which will help.


As to your comments regarding the ride; remember these are trucks, not cars. I drove a Navigator when it was first introduced. My memory was the it was very comfortable and HUGE, and with a somewhat "floaty" ride. The name "Navigator" is apt. It felt like I was piloting a boat. I really have no desire to drive the Escalade. It's just not my cup of tea.


As I have posted before, neither of these vehicles significantly advance the "state-of-the-art" for luxury SUVs. They're just more vehicular clutter.


Let me also say - to set the record straight - I have no problem with Cadillac or Lincoln having an SUV (or pickup) per say. However, if they are going to make these models, and... because these are supposed to be two premium nameplates, make them "truly premium vehicles" in every sense of the word.


Bob
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bostnwhalr by bostnwhalr
Oct 23, 1998 (11:22 am)
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Cadillac Man,


Sorry about being so harsh and picking on you and Cadillac. In New England, Caddy's aren't as strong in terms of sales. We have to deal with harsh winters, stuff like that. So, older folks got smart and moved to Arizona and Florida. That's why you don't see as many Cadillac's here.


In terms of resale value, that's why they are probably lower in the North East. In fact, a used Cadillac in NE is a great buy! You could probably do gangbusters by coming here and buying low and sell them high in AZ. .


By the way, I wasn't totally "anal". I do like the STS, nice piece of machinery.


I was picking on the Catera because reliability has been a real problem according to long term reports I've seen. The car itself is good, but there have been serious reliability issues.


As for the Escalade, I'll stop picking on it. This is America where we are free to buy what we want and also voice our opinion at the same time. If your customers like the Escalade then that's what counts, right?


Peace my friend!
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94mx5 by 94mx5
Oct 25, 1998 (6:48 am)
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Which is worse? Cadillac trying to sell a disguised Chevy, or the fact it took GM so long to jump on the bandwagon? Everyone else (Lincoln, Lexus, Infiniti, Acura) does it. Of course, if everyone else jumped off a bridge...? At least it's a GM product, not like Acura selling a rebadged Isuzu.
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Escalade vs. Denali ! by arh1956
Oct 27, 1998 (9:54 pm)
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Before anyone buys an Escalade see a GMC dealer my dealer says GMC is installing the OnStar free into the Denali's leaving the only discernible difference ; the warranties ! Cadillac 4 Yr./50K. , GMC 3 Yr./36K. & the Caddie is about 4,000 $$$ more ! Check at both dealers before you buy & good luck !
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CadillacMan by CadillacMan
Oct 30, 1998 (5:27 am)
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arh1956 -


Other differences on the Escalade include:
1) Nuance perforated Leather seating (very much different and improved )
2) Heated seats, front & rear
3) Real zebrano wood trim / steering wheel
4) Bose Accoustimas Entertainment Sound system
5) Onstar SERVICE free for one year
6) Cadillac Roadside assistance & free loaners
during entire 4 year/50K warranty period


Yeah - for 4 grand people need to do some soul searching - depends how deep your pockets are I guess...














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Local dealer is everything by bostnwhalr
Oct 30, 1998 (2:58 pm)
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Also comes down to dealer service in your local market area. The Cadillac customer treatment would more likely be better than at the GMC dealer. Then again, a GMC dealer would likely have more experience servicing trucks.


I almost forgot, isn't GM coming out with a revised full size SUV based on the new 1999 Chevy "Truck" for a '00 introduction? Based on the positive views given on the pickup truck, it might be worth holding out. At that time, maybe GM will give the Escalade something to further differentiate itself in the marketplace (ie, better drivetrain/engineering refinement choices).


As much as I am not a big fan of the Navigator for the same reasons as the Escalade, I think Ford is wise in deciding to exclusively install the 300hp 5.4L in it versus the Expedition.


In my opinion, engineering/design superiority is a good reason to pay a premium for a product. For the Escalade to be successful in the long run, GM should think about what they need to do to separate it from the Denali and its lower cost brethrens.






 
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Cadillacman ! by arh1956
Oct 31, 1998 (4:52 am)
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While the leather is different , I actually am well satisfied with the Denali's! The heated seats and the sound system on the other hand are exactly identical in both vehicles! The Denali has front seats with the seat and backs heated, and rear seats with the seat heated! The GMC dealer here is also a Cadillac dealer and gives loaners for both brands! To me the Wood Wheel and other assorted wood upgrades are nice, but the Denali is exceptional without them! I like both but the GMC seems a better value! If any spruced-up 15 year old platform is a good value at 43K+!
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no_body_74 by no_body_74
Nov 07, 1998 (7:55 pm)
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Just wait untill the 2000 model year. GM will have all thier SUVs based on the new truck platform. This will also give GM time to actually plan a new Escalade instead of just saying lets slap this part here or there on a Denali and call it a Cadillac. GM will really be moving foward in the next couple of years. As far as Cadillac goes there will be the redesigned Catera built in the U.S. and made for the U.S. market unlike the current generation Catera. For those of you who like the Lexus RX 300 or other SUVs based on a car platform Cadillac will produce a "LAV" or "Luxury Activity Vehicle" based on the new Catera metioned above. It will be an all wheel drive SUV that should come out in 2001 or 2002. There will also be a new rear wheel drive platoform that GM will use throughout its divisions. I think all Cadillacs will be rear wheel drive in the future except for the Deville which is scheduled for a redesign in 2000. I don't know the reasoning behind the Deville staying at FWD. Maybe CadillacMan can explain this. Anyway like I said GM is really moving foward.
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What I have heard... by CadillacMan
Nov 18, 1998 (6:21 pm)
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Nicely put no_body_74


The main reason for Deville staying front wheel drive is because of it's goal of a luxury ride and not a "performance-oriented" ride. Measuring the "pros and cons" of front wheel drive vs. rear wheel drive for this segment, at this time, GM will elect to keep the Deville FWD.
Additionally, less torque steer will be noticed on the new Deville when the new platform will be introduced in 2000, based on stiffer beaming of the new Seville for the 98 model year.
The 2001 Seville & Eldorado will change in to RWD given their competitive class.
The Escalade should be impressive in it's next generation - but take nothing away from it now... compared to its rival - the Navigator - stacking up value per dollar of MSRP - the Escalade will get a fair market share. We can't keep one here at our dealership for more than 48 hours... People are impressed with the fit and finish.

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