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What is this discussion about? Cadillac Escalade, Cadillac Escalade EXT, Cadillac Escalade ESV, SUV


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JTRICKEL by JTRICKEL
Jul 21, 1998 (2:46 am)
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THE REASON SO MANY MERCEDES SUV'S ARE BEING TRADED IN ON LINCOLN NAVIGATORS IS THAT IF YOU WANT TO RIDE IN A JEEP BUY MERCEDES. IF YOU WANT TO RIDE IN A REAL SUV BY NAVIGATOR. THE NAVIGATOR WAS PROJECTED TO SELL ABOUT 40,000 UNITS THIS FIRST YEAR AND YOU STILL HAVE LITTLE CHOICE AND FULL STICKER PRICE. DOES THIS SOUND LIKE A DOG???


MERCEDES WILL SELL ABOUT ONE-HALF THAT AMOUNT.
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microrepair by microrepair
Jul 21, 1998 (5:55 pm)
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I guess my values must be a little warped. For some reason, I don't think of "wood trim", "leather upholstery", "gold-plated badges", "memory seats with 6 settings", "headlight wipers", "automatic day/night rear view mirrors", and other baubles as meaningful or "better" when it comes to a motor vehicle. I tend to think more in terms of 1) relibility, 2)durability (longevity), 3)ergonomic comfort, 4)handling response, 5)roadholding, and value for the money as more important criteria to use when choosing a motor vehicle. Of course, everyone can make their own choices based upon their priorities. Personally I won't spend 30-38K for a vehicle that is basically the same as a lesser stablemate selling for 22-26K. If the new Cadillac SUV comes with a Northstar engine instead of a GM/generic Chevy/Olds/Pontiac, then it's a start. If they throw in a sophisticated AWD & ABS combo similar to the ML320, then they're getting close to maybe parting me and my wallet.
For the record, I admire many things about the MB ML320 and the Lexus RX300. However, they are not perfect either and I'm not proposing that all SUV's emulate those two. But there have to be ways to make the top-of-the-line models truly better than their cheaper siblings and therefore earn the right to charge a lot more money for them. The Lincoln Navigator is NOT better than the Expedition, it is just more expensive. It will not last longer, it will not climb steeper hills, and it will not visit the repair garage an less often. To many people it looks better and feels better, therefore let them spend the extra 10K for it. I won't.
 
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rsholland by rsholland
Jul 27, 1998 (2:56 pm)
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DTRICKEL


The only reason Mercedes will sell less than the Navigator, is because of production limitations. The ML320 has had a 9-12 month waiting list ever since it was announced. Once the DaimlerChrysler deal is completed that will probably change for the better.


As for those trading in Mercedes ML's for something else - well, you can't please everybody.


By the way, what is your definition of a "real SUV"? Most people in the know would say that term (SUV) originated with the Jeep; a vehicle that you just put down.


Bob
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rsholland by rsholland
Jul 27, 1998 (2:59 pm)
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microrepair


Your values are just fine.


Bob
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rsholland by rsholland
Jul 31, 1998 (1:03 am)
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The current edition of Automobile magazine has a picture of the new Caddy SUV (aka Truck deVille) next to a new GMC Denali. Aside from a different mesh in the grille and the logos, they're identical. The Truck deVille has a bit more wood inside, and the OnStar GPS is standard. I'm sure it won't be long before we start seeing versions with padded vinyl roofs, whitewalls, fender skirts, and fake wire-wheel hubcaps.


Bob
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jstirpe by jstirpe
Aug 12, 1998 (12:07 pm)
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Navigator or Escalade ??
I am currently leasing a Ford Explorer, but when the Navigator came out, it was love at first site. However, out comes the Cadillac Escalade and now we have some competition. Any advise as to which luxury SUV is really worth the $40,000 plus price tag ??
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glenn2 by glenn2
Aug 13, 1998 (7:27 pm)
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what a joke
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Front Porch Philosopher by meredith
Aug 17, 1998 (3:47 am)
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Edmunds review of the...


Cadillac Escalade and the Yukon Denali can be found at Luxury SUV Review.
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trend by Pulpfictionado
Aug 21, 1998 (1:55 am)
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there's an ugly 1 here


I'd expect greedy dogs like Datsun or Ford 2 dress up a regular SUV, slap another name on it, and jack up the price


But when the general goes there .....
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rsholland by rsholland
Aug 21, 1998 (11:52 pm)
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pulpfictionado


This is not the first time that the general has cannibalized other GM products ...and probably not the last time either.


Bob

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