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| O.K. I'll be the first. 2k 250 5.4L auto ESF4X4 4:10LS Supercab 11k. My motor was built in 10/99. I developed a "Tick" when cold, at around 9k miles. Thought it was a lifter or worse(piston slap) Was informed that piston slap problem is non-issue on motors built after 4/99. Changed oil and filter twice to eliminate the possibility of faulty anti-drainback valve in the motorcraft filter. Tick tick... tick! Went to dealer last week for front spring squeek TSB and the "Tick". Dealer says, "we removed your serpentine belt and tick stopped, but we're not sure if it's the belt,alterator or something else. We'll fix it when you come back to have the new spring isolators installed." So I drive home only to find that when they removed and replaced the belt, they made the "tick" 10 times worse!(I guess that's good news cause now I'm convinced it really isn't the motor) For the next three days it was so noisy it would wake up the neighbors when I leave for work! Today it has quieted back down to the intermitent "tick" I had before the shop visit. Shouldn't it have been easier for them to diagnose, and why would they wait until next visit before taking action? Anybody else run into anything similar? How's that for the first post on a new board? | |
| I have a 00 SD 5.4 - 4.10ls cc with 16k, what I notice when I start up and drive and it's below 30 degs. the trans. won't shift into overdrive when you are going 45+ mph until the engine totaly warms up. Also when this happens, you can hear a whine in the tranny, this goes away when it gets into overdrive. Is this normal or what? | |
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Copy/pasted for mikejames: #4 of 4: (mikestjames) Thu 14 Dec '00 (04:46 PM) 1999 F250 SD 4x4 Powerstroke with ZF 6-speed manual transmission. At 51,000 miles, experienced difficulty getting into 1st from a stop. Dealer replaced 1st/5th synchro and installed new shift template. Now (6 months later) bigger problems with the 6-speed: Came on VERY suddenly, working great one minute, the next, locked in gear, then can't get into ANY gear, then can't keep it in 5th (slips out constatly). Constant grinding between gears when you CAN shift at all. It's in the shop right now. No news yet. Anyone having similar difficulties with the 6-speed ZF? This truck has ALL highway miles, and has never towed. |
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Rob Lee and his family purchased a 2000 F-350 truck from Bo Beuckman Ford in Ellisville Mo. in March of 00. At 160 miles Mr. Lee started noticing problems with the truck. 4 of the 6 tires were worn on the outer edges like the alignment was off. He called Bo Beuckman Ford to set up an appointment and explained the problem to the service writer who said " Don't bring it here, we don't want to see it, take it to a tire store". Furious, Lee called back and talked to someone named Randy who reluctantly scheduled an appt. An alignment check was done, then he is again told it's a tire problem. Take it to a tire store where the 6 tires are replaced at 900 miles. Shortly after this, at 1360 miles, Lee noticed it bellowing smoke on cold start up, a grinding-rumbling sound in the drive train, the steering pulled left, and a rattle in the right rear door. Another appt. was made for 4-6-00. After 22 days, he is called and told "Your truck is ready for pickup". When asked if everything went ok, they said, "We put a clutch in it and that didn't correct the grinding sound. Now that sound is normal and there is nothing else we can do about it. We couldn't duplicate the smoke problem. The rattle was a loose cab mount and we rotated the tires and now the steering pulls to the right. Lee said his truck still pulls, smokes, and has a grinding rumbling sound, also nothing was done to correct the tire wear. You say the truck is ready for pick-up? At this time the General Manager of Bo Beuckman, Larry Perez said "This has too many problems for a new unit. I'll have Tom Hoff (Truck Mgr.) look in the pool of vehicles we have to pull from and locate you a new truck and get back with you". Then Lee's told there are no other vehicles comparable to yours. Several days later, Larry Perez calls Lee and said "There is nothing wrong with your truck. Come and get it off my lot!" Lee was dumbfounded by this sudden drastic change in Perez's perception of the truck. He called Jim Helms (Service Mgr.) and is told the truck has unresolved concerns and is given an application for the Dispute Resolution Board. At this time, he refused possession of the truck until all problems were resolved. Lee requested a hearing in May 2000. Then 8-18-00 he received the DSB ruling " The Board has decided to have Ford Motor Company replace your truck. The alignment/ tire pull, drive train noise, exhaust smoke concerns you report remain unresolved. Ford will provide you at no charge, any non transferable manufactured installed options". Lee accepts the offer. Tom Hoff and Lee order a 2001 truck. Lee adds several options that he expects to pay for. Next he is told by Ford that he must pay an additional $920 to get an identical truck. This means Lee will be charged twice for some items and pay for items already on the 00 truck. This also allows nothing for the 9 months of interest and insurance payments Mr. Lee made or property tax due 1-1-01. The new 2001 truck came in 11- 22-00. Tom Hoff tells Lee he must pay approx. $1500 instead of $920.and there is nothing anyone can do about the other losses. He also verified this with Larry Perez and is told, "No, there's nothing I can do for you! ". Tue.11-28-00, KMOV-TV decides to run a story about the truck. Perez calls Lee and offers to pay all losses and wave the $1500 if KMOV-TV will kill the story. The story airs at 10 PM Tuesday. Replaying video of the truck bellowing smoke 5 times. Wednesday, Lee calls Perez to reconcile this problem and is told "I'm not doing anything for you since the story aired". Thursday, Lee got a threat on his answering machine from Ford Motor Co. "I'll just have Tom Hoff sell your new truck to someone else if you don't accept our offer". Larry Perez continues to side step this problem blaming Lee and making excuses saying ,"Lee refuses to pay up grade charges" " there is nothing wrong with the truck" " all diesels smoke" Lee said "I paid Bo Beuckman Ford $30,000 and they and Ford M |
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The previous post appeard to be truncated.. oh well.. What did we learn? Rob Lee bought a truck. It had problems.. Bo Beuckman Ford dealership is terrible with customer service.. (everyone knows you get 1 free alignment in the first 12k miles) FoMoCo via arbitration agreement gives him another truck with a charge $1500 additional.. (On top of the extra he is paying for additional options on the new truck). My note: Remember, this is an arbitration agreement, and not a Lemon law case at this time. Rob could have easily declined the arbitration agreement to pursue Lemon law.. It's not stated what the details are which were agreed to in the arbitration agreement, such as depreciation and mileage charges etc.. Rob Lee threatens to go to the press with the story.. FoMoCo folds, and will waive the $1500 if he doesn't go to the press.. Rob Lee runs the story anyway.. Then calls his dealer to see if the dealership will waive the $1500.. (duh) Dealership says, FU, you aired the story.. FoMoCo says that if Rob doesn't want to pay $1500 thats fine, they can find other buyers for the truck.. Rob goes on to say something else that we can't see, oh well.. So, who is the bad guy here?? Yep, the dealership could have handled themselves better, but it also seems like Rob Lee could have handled the situation better as well.. So, let us know, how does the story end? |
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Lee said "I paid Bo Beuckman Ford $30,000 and they and Ford Motor Company act like they don't care if I have a truck or not". "I have repeatedly been on hold as long as 45 minutes waiting for Larry or Tom to come to the phone". Lee waited days and not had phone calls returned, " Bo Beuckman won't stand behind the product they sold me". This truck has been at Bo Beuckman since April 6, 00 waiting for repair or replacement. In spite of freezing temperatures Lee hads been out front of Bo Beuckman Ford with an informational picket and says, " If I can keep just one person from the many months of agony and misery Bo Beuckman Ford has caused us, standing in the cold will be worth it" $30.000 NO TRUCK Please call Larry Perez 636-227-5700 to show support or TV CH 4 newsroom 314-444-6333 to report a similar problem. Rob Lee 314-412-7016 L.M. Standing Outside By Rob Lee Larry P. Why did you Mess With Me I came to your store for a truck Instead got stuck in all of your muck Must have been some really bad luck You said get that truck off of my lot, I'm not responsible I said I don't see how that is possible To settle this without a fit I would of put in quite a bit The press didn't give you time to buy em Instead you got stymied by them I guess you took it all pretty hard I didn't even get a Christmas card That's were we are today Maybe this will be over by May I hope it all comes out of your pay I really hoped you would handle this with pride But instead you left us standing outside |
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Holly S***! If there's one thing I've learned about situations that start to go bad... start taking lots of notes because you can at least have some satisfaction when writing to the BBB, TV stations, who ever! Those Bast***s like Bo Beuckman shouldn't be in business, but, sadly, there seem to be a lot who are. I've been in the pains you are going through right now Rob, and can only wish you the best of luck! Problem is, most people who havn't been through it don't understand the true pains you are going through and look at the situation and think "that's not possible!" But it is! And all too often! No call backs... "There is nothing wrong with your truck. Come and get it off my lot!"... Trying to buy you out from airing the ad. YOU GO Rob! I'd have aired it too (not that you or I could have stopped it from running  ". I sure hope it impacts his business, runs often, and eventually forces him into bankruptcy! Well, enough of my sympathies, don't worry, I'll call Mr. BB and tell him what a wonderful dealership he's runnin'. Don't think he'll listen for too long though.
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I am surprised at the apparent ignorance of some of these people complaining about their brakes. One person talks about how the general problem with brakes pulsating is wharped drums. NOT SO. Generally its the front. Another talks about the F250 being 1000 lbs heavier than the F150. Actually its about 2000 lbs more, but the brakes on the F250's are more than twice as capable of stopping that difference. Another talks about replacing the brakes 3 times on service vehicles. He goes on to say you need to watch the rubber plug in the drums. He must be working on a '98 or older F250, cause the SD's do not have rear drums. These people should get an idea of what they have and what it does before they let their mouths overload their brains. By the way, I had the rotors turned at 1000 miles on my '99 F250. It was delivered 6-4-98. Has 47,000 miles on it now, and works great. 40% of my driving is either pulling or hauling. GET A GRIP, PEOPLE. Chances are, the way you drive is the problem.
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Contact Edmunds.com Firewall/clutch problems on 86 F-250 by 1986f250 Jan 15, 2001 (08:42 am) I recently bought an 86 F-250 and developed problems with the clutch. I have been told this model has a single layer of sheet metal in the firewall. When the clutch is pushed in, the firewall flexes and doesn't disengage the clutch. Is there an after-market fix for this problem or does anyone know of other solutions? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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