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Feb 24, 2002 (12:32 am)
I recently purchased a used 2001 V8 Toyota Tundra LTD. This is my first Toyota, and first pickup, after owning many Hondas, including 1 Prelude, 2 Accords, 1 Civic CR-SI.
I have a several complaints. The equipment rental dealer would not let my tow a small, trailered skid steer with it. He said their policy is a full size Ford, Dodge or GM, that they had a bad experience with a Tundra owner who claimed a trailer bent his axle. I told him Tundra is a full size truck, but he would not rent the equipment.
Since owning the truck for about 3 months, I've noticed the steering wheel will shimmy when the brakes are applied, and the brake pedal feels like it is pumping under my foot. I took the truck in to a dealer, and said the truck shakes when the brakes are applied. Without looking up from his clipboard, the arrogant s.o.b. said "you and everybody else!"
I almost didn't want to tell him about my second problem, which is a mysterious "bump" that happens just before coming to a stop. Feels almost like I am being tapped from the rear, but no one is behind me. He continued writing without looking up, very rude, and said "they all do that." What a jerk!
When I picked my truck up, the write-up stated they turned the front rotors and replaced brake pads. The technician changed the transmission fluid and cleaned a screen, and charged me for this! But I still feel the bump from behind.
I never had a problem with a Honda. This truck worries me. Anybody with similar problems?
Feb 24, 2002 (12:53 am)
You won't get any help here, but your service advisor was right. Go to http://www.tundrasolutions.com
Do a search on brakes, brake problems, brake vibrations, transmission problems, transmission clunks. There are hundreds of posts in the archives.
#675 of 1322 rstubener
Feb 24, 2002 (7:35 am)
Sorry about your problem - you should try another dealer /service department.
The Toyota service department always treated me fine -they fixed it right the first time - and if problem came back - even after warranty was expired - they fixed it again for free. I did have one problem Toyota - and I got to know the guys in service too well. Maybe it was an act - but I always felt like they did care about all the problems I was having, and did everything they could to fix them. One mechanic even stayed until 7:00 pm on a Friday to finish up so I could pick up the vehicle early Saturday morning.
If the sales department treated me 1/2 as good as the service department I may still be driving Toyota products.
#676 of 1322 rstubener
Feb 24, 2002 (7:36 am)
jimedwards is correct. At least the owners at "that" site don't live in denial.
And Quad, I might tend to believe that Tundra owners perhaps are a tad bit more asinine when it comes to their trucks. Especially after being fooled by Toyota into believing that they have a true "full" sized truck with Tacoma parts.
#677 of 1322 I think everybody would agree they
Feb 24, 2002 (8:58 am)
would rather have Tacoma parts on their Tundra than GMC parts!
And speaking of being "fooled," obyone, didn't you buy what was advertised as the "longest lasting, most dependable truck on the road?" Pfff, YEAH RIGHT!
Isn't is strange that obyone, by his own admission, owns a bonafide lemon-law qualified Chevy that spends 4 months a year at the dealer but seeks "vindication" for his plight by brooding in Toyota threads at Edmunds Town Hall?
I hope obyone sticks around in our Toyota threads, however. Despite his best efforts to criticize Toyotas, he provides the ultimate example of why Chevys should be avoided.
Feb 24, 2002 (9:17 am)
"jimedwards is correct. At least the owners at "that" site don't live in denial."
You will find that a vast majority of Tundra owners on "that site" are very happy with their trucks. But hey, don't take my word for it, go and see for yourself.
#679 of 1322 statistics
Feb 24, 2002 (10:20 am)
rstubener's "bump"just before coming to a stop is why GM replaced the Allison transmission twice in my 2500HD.Toyota puts a bandaid on it and charges you?Tundra owners think this makes thier truck better because no trans was replaced?The list of problems posted by rstubener rival any lemon buyback and I'm sure the Tundra zealots will make some lame excuse like "this truck is really a silverado wearing a dress"
Feb 24, 2002 (10:53 am)
"The list of problems posted by rstubener rival any lemon buyback..."
I think the important point is all makers will produce a problematic vehicle, but the RATE at which they produce them is the real indicator of quality, or lack thereof.
I would say you'd be exremely unlikely to get a real lemon-qualified Tundra as in rstubener's case. But with GMC, especially lately, it seems you're lucky just to get a "good" truck that doesn't knock, shake, or have such a bad transmission the owner wants his money back or has to take GMC to court for settlements. It's SOOO obvious the automotive world (and everybody else with open eyes) is recognizing GMC's quality issues while the loyalists simply can't accept the truth.
It also seems that the loyalists like to make themselves feel better by attacking - TA DAA - Toyota, the company generally recognized as making the world's most reliable vehicles.
I personally find all this quite amusing. Anytime there's some anecdotal tale about a Toyota with a problem, hundreds of angry Chevy Lemonado owners rejoice and say "HA!!! Toyota made a lemon! Take that you Toyota zealots!" then pat themselves on the back, trying to ease their pain and convince themselves Chevy is still #1. If it makes the Chevy owners feel better, more power to them.
But none of this changes the fact that Toyota is NOTED for quality, while Chevy ADVERTISES it. Perhaps that's why you always hear the argument "My Chevy is as reliable as your Toyota" and NEVER "My Toyota is as reliable as your Chevy."
Feb 24, 2002 (11:01 am)
I think when you are feeling that tap from behind it is do to axle wrap. I believe it is a rather common "phenomenon" among automatic Tacomas and probably Tundras. I have heard of lots of people with Tacomas having the mysterious tap from behind, but you are the first I have heard with a Tundra
P.S. Find a new dealership