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Feb 23, 2002 (12:44 am)
Complaints to NTHSA:
Tundra 148/Silverado 528
Units produced 2000-2002:
Tundra 237,000/Silverado 1,665,000
Complaints per 1000 units:
Tundra 0.6/Silverado 0.3
Tundra generates double the rate of complaints to NTHSA.
Top 25 Best and Worst Vehicles
The Center for Auto Safety analyzed complaints made to the government by Americans having problems with their vehicles. Below are the models that received the fewest complaints, and those that received the most. Models introduced in 2000 and 2001 are not represented due to a lack of data.
Best (Fewest complaints) Worst (Most complaints)
1. Ford F-Series 1. Mazda MPV
2. BMW 3 Series 2. Kia Sportage
3. BMW 5 Series 3. Ford Excursion
4. Volkswagen Golf 4. Ford Windstar
5. Mazda Truck 5. Mercury Cougar
6. Volvo C70 6. Volvo S40
7. Volkswagen Beetle 7. Honda Passport
8. Nissan Sentra 8. Honda S2000
9. Infiniti G20 9. Mitsubishi Eclipse
10. Acura RL 10. Isuzu Rodeo
11. Saab 9-5 11. Ford Explorer
12. Chevrolet Prizm 12. Land Rover Range Rover
13. Toyota Corolla 13. Audi A6
14. Infiniti QX4 14. Hyundai Tiburon
15. Nissan Altima 15. Honda Odyssey
16. Lexus RX300 16. Lincoln LS
17. Nissan Maxima 17. Jeep Grand Cherokee
18. Acura TL 18. Volkswagen Passat
19. Saab 9-3 19. Buick LeSabre
20. Pontiac Bonneville 20. Suzuki Grand Vitara
21. Mazda Millenia 21. Chevrolet Blazer
22. Mazda 626 22. Chevrolet Impala
23. Lincoln Town Car 23. Toyota Tundra
24. Ford Focus 24. Dodge Dakota
25. Honda Accord 25. Dodge Neon
Feb 23, 2002 (1:10 am)
If you read the posts on the NHTSA complaint board, you will find out that the complaints about the Rado are WAY more severe than the complaints about the Tundra. Just read the damned things and you will see. Moreover, the some of the posts are redundant, so a count is not adequate for both the Tundra and the Rado.
Tell you what, find the 5 most severe complaints you can about the 2000 Tundra and I will find the 5 most severe complaints about the 2000 Rado. Pick one from each area of the truck, ie, suspension, engine, electrical, structure, interior and we will compare. I bet that the problems on the Rado will be more severe compared to those of the Tundra. Are you willing to play the game?
As for that Center For Auto Safety that you keep on pasting, I will believe it when I you post a LINK to it. Until then I am not convinced. I searched the CAS site and did not find it. Post a link or SU.
#658 of 1322 As quoted from you know who...
Feb 23, 2002 (1:41 am)
"Post a link or SU."
Seems to me you're in need of an attitude adjustment. For someone who is soooo into links, where are the links for the forged pistons in the Tundra? I'm still waiting on that one. Certainly there should be somewhere in this vast internet that can substantiate what you proclaimed that the Toyota help line told you.
Good luck on this one now!!
#659 of 1322 The heck with links...
Feb 23, 2002 (7:34 am)
Just read the THOUSANDS of posts here about Chevy problems - knocking engines, vibration, the Duramax/Allison combo, etc. Count how many disgruntled owners there are who want their money back. Cound how many disgruntled owners there are who are bickering with GM and have to go to the BBB and get lawyers. Read Edmunds' long term review on their Silverado. Draw your own conclusions.
Then read the couple hundred posts about Tundra problems and their short dipsticks or tail-lamps.
#660 of 1322 Links according to nhatma
Feb 23, 2002 (8:11 am)
makes the world go round. Didn't you know that dood?
#661 of 1322 Thanks anyway, obyone, but I don't need
Feb 23, 2002 (9:21 am)
links. I've been driving Chevys at my work for quite a while and there's no way I would spend my money on one. Heck, they can't even make a truck whose steering doesn't shake and feel loose or align the door so you don't have to slam the dickens out of it to close it...
But hey, go Chevy - even yours, the lemon-law qualified Shakerado, right?
Feb 23, 2002 (10:38 am)
By your own admission, your Lemon Chev has been in the shop over 4 months. Look at the bright side - you were able to drive much better built rental vehicles while you were waiting to get your Lemonado back.
You and Quad(both lemon Chev owners) routinely follow each other in Tundra topics. Sort of like tweedledumb and tweedledumber. I'm just trying to figure out which is which.
Feb 23, 2002 (1:45 pm)
Are we sure that this guy even owns a Chevy lol. Maybe he indeed is quoting the right engine but failed to realize its in his FORD !!!
Feb 23, 2002 (2:12 pm)
Ndahi I read through many of the Rado complaints and agree that there was some pretty funny stuff in there. I didn't realize the brake problem was such a big issue. Of course there were plenty of posts about brake failures and near collisions, as well as the steering wheel that would shake out of your hand if you didn't have death grip on it. However I think the 2 that got me the most, and reinforced the lemonado concept, were the guy who was driving and kept having his hubcaps roll off lol, and the other person who accidentally bumped seat control while attempting to exit vehicle and was promptly pinned against the steering wheel by electrical seat malfunction. Not only did he have a heck of a time getting out, but complained of sore ribs for a day lol, way too funny.
I will say that to me it seemed the Rado complaints were quite more severe than Tundras. I was also suprised by the sheer number of complaints Rado Vs Tundra, but as Quad pointed out, the number of vehicles on the road between the two differ greatly, so that is to be expected. I found quite a few Rado consumers who described their experiences as "dangerous" and "safety issues" , haven't seen those words yet in Tundra posts but still quite a few to look through.
Feb 23, 2002 (2:51 pm)
Even if there were issues...good ole bama would scare them away to the "other" site.
So Tundra owners...no one fessing up? Do you have forged pistons or not? Such a simple question...no answer? Or am I asking this question at the "wrong" site? So WHERE ARE all the knowledgeable owners?
Good luck on this one now.................................................................................................