Last post on May 14, 2002 at 3:08 AM
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#1319 of 1322 Wow 48 new posts since ....
May 13, 2002 (11:07 pm)
I posted about 10 hours ago lol ... good job guys. At least the topics not dead, if we could just keep the back and forth somewhat civil then all is good lol.
KG ... lol well I believe this thread to be open to anyone who can remain respectful to the topic and posters at hand. Just because one may not own a Tundra doesn't mean they aren't knowledgeable about them. Some people like myself, are here to simply learn more about them before we plunk the money down.
There used to be a Toyota Tundra OWNERS forum and I tried very hard not to post there as I'm not an owner. Sometimes an occasional topic would get carried there one way or another but I tried to remain respectful from a non-owner perspective. Since this topic isn't owner specific it certainly should be open to all. It doesn't take a degree to figure out what's acceptable in these rooms and what isn't. I don't know of any Edmunds topic that has stayed completely on track, but plenty of them remain civil.
#1320 of 1322 There's an information superhighway out there!
May 13, 2002 (11:22 pm)
...invented by Alexander Graham Bell!
Says right here:
>The 2002 Lemon List
Thanks to the efforts of the Center for Auto Safety, we are able to provide you with the vehicle complaints on file with the National Highway for Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). Each year, thousands of Americans call their government to register complaints about their vehicles. The federal government collects this information but has never released it to the general public. The complaint index is based on a ratio of the number of complaints for each vehicle to the sales of that vehicle.<
Ndahi, let's review.
1.) It says "thousands of Americans call their government...
2.) It says the information is "collected by the federal government but never released to the general public."
Translation: You won't find it clicking links. It's why lawyers get big bucks for doing research, and you don't.
(And besides, for the lawyer conspiracy you seem to be inferring, you'd have to accept that the other 24 lemons were faked also. Why don't you just call the number and ask them?)
#1321 of 1322 How convenient
May 14, 2002 (12:14 am)
So somehow these lawyers are priviliged and have information that no one else has. Quad, I have a bridge to sell you. You must be really naive if you buy that.
The first principle of sound research is to CORROBORATE one's evidence by evidence from a second, third and even fourth party. This evidence that you posted cannot be corroborated either by the Center For Auto Safety nor by NHTSA. So it is not reliable. These are just a couple of lawyers out to make a buck.
Think for a minute. Why would NHTSA withhold such evidence from the public when it allows the same public to post complaints directly to their web site? Doesn't that seem odd to you. It does to me. Why would NHTSA provide this info ONLY to these two lawyers? Why not other lawyers?
You still have NOT posted a link to the Center For Auto Safety best and worst list that you keep posting over and over again. When will you provide me with a link to their web site so I can read/see for myself? What are you trying to hide?
May 14, 2002 (3:08 am)
This is NOT a contest to see who can create more posts in the other guy's problem topic.
I'm shutting down the topics where you guys continue this nonsense. Should it start up again, you're gone. Plain and simple.