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#847 of 856 True Dealer Invoices
Jul 11, 2003 (7:15 am)
I am considering the Ram 1500. Dont know wheather to get the Hemi or the Reg. V8 !!! Would you reg V8 owners switch if you could ? I dont do alot of towing. Also Can anyone out there tell me if all the info I get from these websites are the REAL prices the dealers go by also, or do dealers have a super guarded seceret price with the Mfg. that only they know about and all the other stuff is fluff for the consumer. Sometimes its hard to believe the Auto makers are that free with it.
#848 of 856 Re: To Hemi or not to Hemi...............
Jul 11, 2003 (8:02 am)
Performance is a very subjective thing, and often times relates more to your style of driving.
I've driven the RAM Quad with the 4.7 polyhead motor and I thought it had plenty of power, even when I loaded it with 1300 pounds. Others, however, are not satisfied with the level of performance of the 4.7 and have opted for the Hemi engine.
Now there was the assumption that the Hemi would get about the same gas mileage as the 4.7, but in my experience that hasn't been true. As you would expect of a motor that delivers more horsepower, the reported range is about 10-13 MPG. The reports from 4.7 owners seem to be about 12-16.
Your driving style will dictate the fuel consumption of any engine. My recommendation is to drive both versions and decide if the extra horsepower is worth the differential in fuel consumption to you. Keep in mind that when you're not towing you will still need to feed those ponies.
#849 of 856 True Dealer Invoices
Jul 11, 2003 (10:04 am)
Yes, they are actual invoice prices. However, they don't take into account things like manufacturer to dealer rebates or manufacturers volume incentive schemes.
If you were a small 'mom & pop' dealership selling only a couple of vehicles a month, then the published invoices are the prices you would pay, and the only profit you'd make would be from the amount over invoice you could sell for.
I doubt whether you'd be in business for long though.
#850 of 856 new trans at 2000 miles
Jul 12, 2003 (6:30 am)
While pulling a 9000lb 5th wheel my trans decided to roll over and die. Just under 2000 miles. All fluids fine. Told it is " stuck between gears". They are going to replace trans. Felt like it dropped into neutral while going 65mph. Any one else have similar problems? 2003, 2500 quad cab 4x4, 5 speed auto 5.7 Hemi, tow package 4:10 rear end
Jul 13, 2003 (8:26 am)
Anybody heard when 2004's will hit the dealerships?
#852 of 856 2004 Availability
Jul 13, 2003 (9:24 am)
Based on the 2003 schedule, the change-over dates for the Dodge RAM are approximately as follows:
Lago Alberto, Mexico - 9 August
Dodge City (Warren, MI) - 15 July
Saltitlo, Mexico - 15 July
St. Louis (North) - 15 July
The above are "first build" dates and don't represent actual completion of the first unit down the line. In addition, early build units will usually take longer in the manufacturing cycle as the assembly process is verified to ensure quality inspection targets. Right after change-over, the time out for early units can be as long as two weeks as it is the early units that supply the product testing people. Considering transportation times, it usually take at least 30 days before units start to show up at dealers.
#853 of 856 Dodge Ram 1500 Laramie Quad Cab
Jul 23, 2003 (12:23 pm)
I am in Southern California, and looking to buy an 03, Ram 1500 Quad Cab. The only available Laramie packages left at the dealers throughout the state come a with a "CA Express" package. This comes witha tonneau cover, agressive front bumper, side rails and other cosmetic items. With an MSRP of $3025.
A local high volume dealer has 22 of these CA express Laramie 1500 Quad cab 2WD. I was there this morning and the car has an MSRP of $38290.
Invoice on a non CA Express model is $31178. Less $2500 rebate, less $1000 hold back comes to around $27644. I offered the dealer $28500. He would not budge. He also would not show me the invoice, claiming the invoice on that car was $34355. He would not disclose the invoice cost of the $3025 Express option. Telling me that the invoice does ot breakout all these costs.
Has anyone purchased any of these trucks recently? If so how much?
This particular dealer had 22 of these cars on the lot, and I expect to see the 04's in about three weeks. They have sold all the Laramie packages and are only left with the Laramie "Express" packages. So I feel the $28500 is reasonable. These dealers will have to take a small haricut on these trucks.
#854 of 856 New 2004 Ram 1500's Are On Their WAY!!
Jul 26, 2003 (3:32 am)
You are so right about those new 2004's coming out soon. I also saw a dealer with 13 2003 Hemi Express models on the ground. They are getting desperate to move some of them. Since it will be a year old model soon, it pays to wait and jump in at the last moment. I plan to wait until the end of the month either July or August. I am in no hurry and can play the waiting game if they can.
I have seen those $38,090 Msrp trucks come down to almost $32,000 so far, and many dealers have a ton of them. That same truck is known as the "Thunder Road" in all states except California, so each state gets the same truck.
I think there will be some improvements in the 2004 model. The Hemi has been plagued with a driveability problem on the earliest models of the Hemi 1500. They have been known to stumble and die in certain circustances while driving...most notably when backing up from a stop, or shifting from drive. There is a reprogramming computer bulletin out that supposedly corrects the problem, but the verdict is still out on that one.
The truck has gone through a price increase on the base price by $210.00, and the 29H package has gone up from $4365.00 to $4565.00, or another $200.00 bucks. So some of the old units MSRP for $37,880, and the newest models go for $38,290 at the worst. I also see a lot of them with only a $210 increase that retail at $38,090, so watch your stickers. I think they will be around $31,000 plus tax pretty soon if things don't change soon. The $2500 incentive will probably be continued into August. One can only hope that more incentive money is on the way, or the dealers cough up some of their profit. They also get a 3 or 4% holdback from DC when the vehicle is sold, so that is $1100. to $1300.00 bucks extra they get.
Good luck on your search for your new truck.
#855 of 856 Start-up dates
by kcram HOST
Jul 27, 2003 (9:27 am)
Saltillo, St Louis North, and Dodge City all started 2004 production this past Monday July 21. Lago Alberto (birthplace of my 96) is no longer used as a US/Canada Ram plant.
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#856 of 856 Gserep1..............
Jul 27, 2003 (10:03 am)
>>The Hemi has been plagued with a driveability problem on the earliest models of the Hemi 1500. They have been known to stumble and die in certain circustances while driving...most notably when backing up from a stop, or shifting from drive. There is a reprogramming computer bulletin out that supposedly corrects the problem, but the verdict is still out on that one.<<
My Dodge source wasn't familar with the bulletin you referred to and he says they've had no driveability reports at his dealership.
What part of the country are you in?