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Two questions for Mike by stabbur
Feb 17, 2003 (7:08 am)
I was very interested in your method for bleeding the clutch hydraulics. In the last few years I have found three clutch pedals (a Ford 150, a 250 and an Explorer) that went to the floor without disengaging the clutch and in each case the master and/or slave cylinder was replaced to correct the problem. I wonder now whether any of these were simply air bubbles that could have been bled. In each case the failure was rather sudden, usually overnight, with complete or nearly complete inoperability coming on over a few pedal depressions. The questions: How did the air get into your system if a cylinder wasn't leaking? any ideas? (For instance, it would be easy for a guy with a syringe and a small bore tube to introduce some air during a routine grease/oil change if his shop needed some business.) And would you put a vacuum on the master cylinder to see if bubbles appeared in every case where the clutch pedal suddenly goes to the floor without disengagement?
 
Thanks, Ross
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stabbur by mledtje
Feb 17, 2003 (1:32 pm)
My clutch pedal was low from the 1st time I drove it. After several attempts at bleeding, I just gave up and drove it that way.
 
Only after sitting for several weeks did the pedal change for the worse. It is possible that I could have bled the extra air out of the system and gotten back to where it was. But, I tried the vacuum instead and it worked.
 
Putting a vacuum on the master cylinder was easy enough to do, I'd certainly do it before replacing anything.
 
Of course, my reasoning may be wrong. Maybe the master cylinder wasn't able to fully retract, and the vacuum pulled it hard enough to clear the obstruction - or???
 
The only way I can think of air getting into the system is with the brake fluid. If the fluid got low and air got in; or maybe really rough roads got enough air into the fluid. Then using the clutch distributed the air to the slave cylinder where the air came out of the fluid (temperature or air pressure changes?) and caused the clutch to suddenly get worse.
 
I can tell you that the two motorcycle brake system that I tried this on - one is now working great, and the other needs a master cylinder!
 
Mike L
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Feb 18, 2003 (2:16 pm)

 
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Vince - and anyone in Ca or Utah or Colo by mledtje
Mar 04, 2003 (6:43 am)
Dorothy bought me a book at the HP Book Faire - Backcountry Adventures Northern California. It lists tons of backroads, giving road conditions, scenery, etc. They list roads from 1 (any passenger car) to 10 (highly modified 4wd required, expect body damage). This book doesn't show any roads above a 7 because that is not the target audience. It seems to be a great resource - so good, that I went onto Yahoo and ordered Backcountry Adventures Southern California. They also have one for Utah and another for Colorado.
 
Now we need to try some of these roads.
 
Tom S's book gives remote campsite, and this shows campsites that are on the roads, but you still need Tom's book for a description of the camps.
 
Next time you're nearby, stop in and check out the new reference.
 
Mike L
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Mike by vince4
Mar 17, 2003 (10:35 pm)
Hey let's go! The DV trip satisfied my wanderlust for a while but I'm beginning to feel the urge. How about some time in April?
 
I'll take a look at the book on Amazon. I need to order Tom's anyway as mine is old and in two pieces now.
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Are you there Brutus? by stabbur
Mar 18, 2003 (5:45 pm)
We haven't heard from you in a long time. My son and his family are headed for Anchorage this summer and want to rent a truck camper for a couple of weeks. He doesn't like the price from the one company he has checked with. Do you have any leads?
 
Ross
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Books by vince4
Mar 20, 2003 (11:30 pm)
Mike, I bought the books. Should be here in a week.
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Vince by mledtje
Mar 24, 2003 (6:49 am)
Hopefully, you'll like the books as much as I do.
 
I'm trying to figure when we can go camping. Not this month - a wedding next weekend, April is probable, but because Dorothy put in for some camping time at Little Basin. Probably the 11th (my Friday off), only one day so we can check out the place and decide which campsites are good, and how the hiking is, etc.
 
May we are going to Hawaii for a couple of weeks. So, how does June sound? I have the 6th and 20th off for three day weekends.
 
Mike L
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Mike by vince4
Mar 30, 2003 (11:16 pm)
All the way out to June, that's quite a while but okay. Little Basin is nice enough, decent sites and hiking and a rec room if you want. Off season the place is almost empty. In season it may be a bit of a zoo since it's family oriented. They refuse to let my furry friend through the front gate however so I rarely go.
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Little Basin by mledtje
Mar 31, 2003 (6:52 am)
At least the price is right!
 
We are going to check it out for the first time. Later, we could go and have the family group camping in a fairly close location. Will know better next month.
 
Went up to the Sierra's over the weekend. Had a wedding to attend on Sat, so we went up on Friday and camped out. The weather was perfect! Clear and 70 in the day, clear and 40 at night.
 
Mike L

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