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| I had airbags on my last truck and they did a great job leveling my truck but it seemed to rock side to side more. I am trying to decide (if I trade campers) whether to go with them again or the Hellwig progressive helper springs. Any comments? | |
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Don't have the rocking side to side problem. I can see where that could happen, because the airbags are nearly friction free. It could be that your truck couldn't rock side to side without the airbags because it was near the bottom of the suspension, and that prevented more movement i.e. the rocking. And the airbags lifted the truck to allow the rocking. With a top heavy (hardside) camper, side to side rocking is frequently a problem. Anti-sway bars and extra heavy duty shocks help, but the real problem is the weight up high. Mike L |
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I want to visit the Racetrack and then travel out of the valley over Hunter Mountain. I would also like to see Striped Butte in the morning. Striped Butte is on the road through Mengel Pass and past the Barker Ranch. We need to figure out when and where to meet. We will be in Death Valley on the 26th. When will you arrive there? Mike L |
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Vince wrote: >I was thinking about the tie downs. The front >turnbuckles connect to the bed which is fine, >but the rear connect to the bumper. The bumper >is connected to the frame, not to the bed, so as >the bed moves in relation to the frame there >will be a twisting force applied to the camper. >This wouldn't happen if the camper were tied >down to the bed the way Four Wheel intends. What >do you think? If the rear turnbuckles had a >spring like the fronts rather than a rubber >bumper I'd feel better about it. I agree I'd rather have spring loaded turnbuckles in the rear. But, I don't think it makes much difference, pickup bed, frame or bumper for the attachments. The frame has to twist for the bed to twist, and the bumper moves with the frame. Maybe a bolt through the floor and into the bed is not a bad way to go. It would keep the camper from moving up and down and yet let it twist anyway it wanted. Vince, thanks for the story about the overpressure valve from Suburban. I didn't know that. Mike L |
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According to Lance you need either a bedliner or a rubber mat if you haul one of their post 99 campers with a Ford Super Duty truck. I started out using a 3/4" sheet of plywood between the truck and camper on top of my spray-in bedliner (Rhinoliner). To make a long story short I double checked the 2 possible interference points (the top of the cab/cabover section of the camper and the rearmost portion of the bed rails) and determined that I had enough clearance. So I installed the camper with nothing but my Rhinoliner between the truck and camper and it worked. There is less than 1/8" of clearance between the bed rails and the camper and about 1/2" between my cab lights and the cabover of the camper. I check regularly and there is no evidence of contact between the cab light and the camper. As always if in doubt DON'T DO IT! If not for the thickness of my Rhinoliner I couldn't do what I'm doing. I'm happy with the results. Steve Heywood 2002 Ford F350 CC DRW PSD 2002 Lance 1010 |
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| I went with Tork-Lift on my new truck. They bolt to the frame like mini receivers. I felt the rear bumper on the GMC was too thin for the Happy-Jack set up. I still use the Happy-Jack spring loaded turn buckles attached to the Tork-lift chains. No problems yet with this system. Everything seems to flex together. | |
| Wow, 1/2" clearance! The Four Wheel camper really sits high, I'm surprised. There is 6-7" between the roof and overhang. | |
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I know I'm being anal thinking about flex. It doesn't matter much where it's mounted as long as it's mounted well. I see holes in the small side overhang where eye bolts have been, just like the Lance. I'll install a few on the back and use the Happyjacs. I got lucky on the front, the internal mounts were one small turnbuckle away from the factory tiedowns. I really enjoy the flexibility the air bags give. I often only need the bags to level the camper in a campsite. I raise the rear at night to restore the headlight aim, and don't have added harshness when driving empty. To enjoy this you really need to have an on-board compressor. I raise and lower as needed while driving. To really reduce the sway, I'd say a HUGE stabilizer bar and 2 Rancho shocks on each side should do it. |
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I placed two orders on line last night. One at rvpartsoutlet.com for the Porta Potti plus other stuff and one at jcwhitney.com for cable jacks. As usual, rvpartsoutlet has already shipped my entire order and emailed tracking numbers. I haven't heard a peep from JC Whitney. I recommend rvpartsoutlet.com, they have great service and the best prices I've found on the web. Plus no tax since they are in Oregon. |
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