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mullins by mledtje
Oct 22, 2002 (1:43 pm)
Yes, I'm partial to classics - but they weren't classics when I bought them!
 
Bought the 76 R90S in 77, got the 78 R100RS in 80. Bought my first 70 Bonneville in 70.
 
By rights, I'm fast approaching classic myself.
 
Mike L
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First problem by oltroll
Oct 30, 2002 (3:33 pm)
While waxing my camper over the weekend I discovered the bottom corner(latch side) of my door was spongy feeling. I took the outer trim off and found that the frame from the latch down had rotted. It was easy to fix by ripping a piece of salt treated wood and replacing the bad wood. I guess water must get in around the latch. The rest of the frame was fine.
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Winterizing your camper by mledtje
Oct 31, 2002 (6:55 am)
With winter fast approaching, some will put the camper away for the season.
 
What do you do to winterize yours?
 
Other than antifreeze in the water system what is needed. Oh, please don't use antifreeze in the water system - it is deadly!! I would suggest a little cheap vodka instead. 1 quart of vodka to a couple of gallons of water will stop things from growing in your tanks and help prevent freezing. Stir it up good (Drive around for and hour), then drain it out. Anything left behind won't kill you.
 
I hope to use our camper at least once a month for winter camping. Sequoia/Kings Canyon is free after the first snow, and they have heated bathrooms! Big Basin Redwoods State Park is empty in the winter. Beach camping is good anytime.
 
Any other favorite winter camping spots??
 
Mike L
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Mike by rayt2
Oct 31, 2002 (7:53 am)
You been tapping the drain off on your water tank ???? Your last post was confusing & smelled like Vodka LOL !
 
I use the non-toxic RV antifreeze but your mixture sounded interesting too and less wasteful !
 
Ray T.
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by lariat1
Oct 31, 2002 (8:56 am)
We use my friends camper in the winter up here in Alaska and what we did was install low point drains on everything and then in the fall we used compressed air to blow out all of the tanks before the first freeze.
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Mike by mullins87
Oct 31, 2002 (11:17 am)
One quart of vodka in two gallons of water will not freeze? What would it hurt if you left it in over the winter? I've always used the rv antifreeze, but your suggestion sounds interesting.
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by lariat1
Oct 31, 2002 (1:01 pm)
That mixture will freeze around 0F maybe -5F. The vodka full strength will freeze around -25F.
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Vodka as antifreeze by mledtje
Oct 31, 2002 (3:49 pm)
Nothing like a little controversy to get some activity in this group.
 
According to my CRC, it takes 5% ethanol to lower the freezing point of water 2 degrees. That's a lousy antifreeze. Maybe that's why I suggested draining it. What do I know about antifreeze? I know it is needed when I travel to the mountains in the winter, but not down in Silicon Valley where I live. We had a hard freeze about 10 years ago, and we get frost nearly every winter.
 
The real benifit is to prevent growth in the water tanks and lines with something that isn't going to kill us.
 
BTW, does anybody do anything else to winterize a camper? Clearly, I don't do anything else. And I only use the vodka to kill stuff that might be growing in the water system.
 
Mike L
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Absolute Alcohol by stabbur
Oct 31, 2002 (6:00 pm)
Last spring when I sent in the post about my friend who was using "vodka from the PX" as an antifreeze, I didn't research the freezing point depression caused by the addition of alcohol. Of course it makes a difference what proof Vodka one is using. Hundred proof vodka (50% alcohol) is harder and harder to find now, and probably not in the PX. Most bottles are 80 proof (40% alcohol). We can buy 140 proof rum in the New Hampshire State Liquor stores (70% alcohol) and it comes in a bottle with a flame arrestor neck device so that the bottle will not catch fire if opened near flame. Absolute ethyl alcohol (100%) will not freeze when mixed with dry ice. As I recall, the temperature of a dry ice, absolute alcohol mix is minus 73 degrees Centigrade or about minus 100 degrees Farenheit.
 
Putting it all together, I believe that draining the system and flushing once with neutral grain spirits 180 proof (which I last saw for sale in a grocery store while traveling through Blair Nebraska) would prevent any freezeup even in the coldest areas of the country. Whether the plastic piping and fittings could take the alcohol is another question. I know that some old auto fuel systems cannot take high concentrations of alcohol.
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No controversy here.... by mullins87
Nov 01, 2002 (7:29 am)
just interested questioning. Now I have an excuse to go to the liquor store!!!!

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