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An 8' Hardside camper under 1200#? How do they do that? And it has a toilet!!!! My (lightweight) Phoenix popup without toilet weighs 1400#. Clearly, this is the lightest weight hardside I've ever seen. The 2nd bedroom option is interesting, but it is reserved for longer stays, not overnights and not for some of the places we have stayed. You need a fairly level place to unload the camper and reload it. I'd sure like to see one and check the construction and materials. The details sound good on the website. Mike L |
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| Anyone ever checked the difference. Seems to me that the front resistance would be on the bottom of the cab-over more than the front sloped area. Any ideas?? | |
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There are several factors involved -
- Additional height = a larger cross section to move through the air. The sloped front helps, but it is still a bigger piece to push through the air.
- Higher weight = more gas used to accelerate up to speed. Most hardsides weigh more than the soft sides, and they have more storage area to put more weight into.
- Storage bins, racks, AC units, vents on top of camper. Common on hardsides, not so common on popups. Additional stuff on top creates more drag.
The front overhang on my popup is shorter than the cab of the pickup. Hopefully, that means less air gets trapped in there. See pictures of the camper on my 1500 at:
http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=viewall&albumID=1745496 Mike L |
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| I saw the question about pop-up vs. hardside and MPG upon return from a trip down south. On Interstate 10 near Biloxi we found a guy running across the westbound lane from his parked Chev S10 to retrieve a nice looking balloon tired wheelbarrow which we concluded had BLOWN out of his pickup (tailgate up). This raises the question of whether it is better to carry a wheelbarrow on its legs and tire or upside down, the way I have always carried it, but which offers a rough airfoil to the passing breeze. I should have stopped to ask him which way he had it loaded before it blew out but he looked a bit frazzled and I didn't want to bother him with questions. | |
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I would go with Stabbur and carry the wheelbarrow upside down. Problem with rightside up is the air can get under the tub and lift it up with bad results. Most people don't have any idea how much power the air has when you are going down the road. Witness all the junk on the sides of the road. Furniture, mattresses (all too common), clothes, shoes, boxes complete with wrapping paper, pickup bed liners, etc. People expect gravity to stuff in the back of a pickup at 70mpg. And I'm sure they miss some of the pieces that fly out. Nothing like riding a motorcycle across country a few times to give you a good appreciation for the power of the self induced wind. And a good fear of what can fly out of the vehicle ahead of you. And a healthy unwillingness to get near some vehicles. Mike L Bungee cords just don't cut it. They will stretch and let stuff fly. Stretch proof tiedowns or enclosed carriers are the best answers. |
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| Off topic I know, but I gotta ask; What do you ride? | |
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Most of the crosscountry trips have been on older BMWs. - 76 R90S (160K miles) - 78 R100RS (105K miles) - 64 R50 w/R100 engine/trans and Ural S/C(30K miles) We wrecked the sidecar rig in Texas a few years ago. That caused my wife to not like the bikes, so we have the Silverado/popup camper. I also have a couple of other bikes: - 70 Triumph Bonneville with a Spirit Eagle S/C - 67 BMW R60 And of course, my favorite bike: - 70 Triumph Bonneville showroom perfect with 7000 original miles. Sold it for $6K in 99 to buy the camper. I also had a perfect 69 Bonneville that I bought for $2K - it was so dirty, I didn't know what I had until after I cleaned it up. The pushrod tubes leaked so badly that the bike was covered in oil and dirt; the carbs were covered in gas residue from the top of the body to the bottom of the bowl. Fortunately, the oil protected everything - even the bolts had all the original plating. All I did was take it apart and seal the pushrod tubes, clean it up and sell it for $5k Probably more than you wanted to know. Mike L |
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We just returned from a trip to the Great Basin National Park in Nevada. The roads we traveled on were, for the most part, two lane and straight as an arrow. Traffic moves at high speed and it didn't take me long to learn to slow down and move to the right when I saw a big-rig coming my way. When those things passed by they caused an incredible amount of buffeting, and at times it seemed like the camper was going to be ripped from the truck. If I didn't have the camper and was just carrying something loose in the bed, I'm sure it would have been lifted right out of the truck. Jim |
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Try picturing it this way: 50mph = Gale-force wind 75mph = Hurricane |
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| Most of those I am too young to remember. Sounds as if you have an affinity for classic bikes. I'm glad to see Triumph back on the scene, along with some others. Never too much info when it comes to motorcycles. | |
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