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#1059 of 1986 For fischda...Tundra Feedback
Dec 16, 2001 (8:10 pm)
I just bought my 2002 Tundra about 1 month ago so my opinion isn't based on a lot of months of ownership experience but here goes.
I was in the market for a truck that could tow my boat. We had settled on the Ford SuperCrew and I thought I'd test drive a Tundra to "just to say I did". I was so impressed 2 blocks from the dealership I knew it was for me. I've owned an 1998 F150 and liked it (with some reservations)... there are so many things about the Tundra that set it ahead.
The IForce engine is smooth and powerful, ride is quiet and composed, fit and finish is first class. I'm not bothered with not having a plethora of options to choose from; mine came with about everything you can add to an SR5. Toyota is directing this truck to a specific buying segment and has done a great job of addressing the most desirable configuration. I think the equipment on the truck is what I expected...I don't think the lack of heated mirrors or lumbar adjustment would have stopped me from buying it. The ride, engine, quiet interior and handling sold me. This truck flat out moves! Plus, Toyota build quality and reliability are very important to me. Crash test aside, what IS important is how you drive it and being sane on the road.
I'm actually liking the smaller size of the truck and personally I never intended to put people in the back seats. I've used the bed extender for holding packages and also extended for longer cargo and it is a versatile option.
I think Toyota is being cautious with this truck and as they continue to evolve it you will begin to see more options and engine choices. An automaker can't be all things to all people and for a majority of us the Tundra fits perfectly for our needs.
For OBYONE, buy what YOU like and makes you happy. In the end that is all that is important and contributing to the childish bashing of other vehicles doesn't do much for the spirit or intent of these forums.
Dec 16, 2001 (9:49 pm)
I own a 2000 Tundra and I have almost 30k miles on it now. I prefer the captains chairs, which is what I have on my truck. They are very comfortable on long trips. The truck warms up quickly and living in Southern California I don't really need seat or mirror warmers. The cloth seats are nice and cozy after a few seconds sitting on them anyway. If you have leather buy a set of sheepskin covers-my wife has them in her car and they are nice and warm in the winter and cool during the summer (they also don't leave any lint on your clothes).
I don't have children but I have ridden in the back for short periods and it is perfectly fine for two adults back there for short trips.
I had to take it in for a brake vibration around 10k miles, the dealerhsip had it less than one day and the problem hasn't resurfaced. The Tundra is the quietest, smoothest, most comfortable truck I've ever driven/ridden in. I highly recommend it.
I also can't figure out why the chevy yahoos keep lurking around in this forum. They clearly contribute nothing except to tout the reliability of their trucks-only spending four months in the shop every year. I guess that's some kind of a record for a chevy.
Dec 16, 2001 (10:12 pm)
"I ask my question again: Tundra owners, the reviews say one of the Tundra's weaknesses is its lack of options found on the big three; things like heated mirrors/seats, lumbar, etc. How do you feel about this? Do you miss these creature comforts? I'd like to hear especially from you guys who live where there's seasons and snow."
I have had my truck for over a month now. It is a 2002 4X2 with the cc, vp, lsd, al, floor mats, hitch, fog lights, and delux cd/cass/radio.
The Captian Chairs HAVE a lumbar adjustment knob for the dirver for 2002. I do not know about the 2001. I do not think that the bench seats have that option. So get the Captian Chairs and that will take careof the lumbar support.
As for the heated mirrors, it is an option that I do not need in SoCal. And fankly I do not miss it even when it is cold and it is raining. I do not have leather seats. I never liked that option, especially on a truck. It takes a lot of time to keep leather seats maintained. I love the cloth ones. They stick to you and keep you in place.
The truck is simply awesome. I did not like the stock shocks. I felt they were too soft. So I replaced them with HD Bilestin shocks. These are even stiffer than the stock bilestin with the TRD package. Even with these shocks the truck rides smoothly. It does not wallow like the stock one. And you feel more in control on rough roads.
The rear seat is cramped. That is a fact. I am a single man and I do not use the rear seat anyway. But there is room for little children back there. For adults it becomes hard on long trips.
I highly recommend the truck. This truck is perfect for the urban jungle. The size is just right for my needs.
#1063 of 1986 White Smoke at Startup...
Dec 17, 2001 (5:47 am)
This happened to my Tundra once on startup. Loud, ugly sounding and bluish white smoke came out of the exhaust. I shut it down instantly.
I checked everything over and gave it a second try. All better. Hasn't happened again since.
All I can figure is that it had something to do with the weather - heavy rain on the day before followed by a very hard freeze overnight. Some coincidence with that and how the engine was configured when I shut it off the night before.
In either case, that was about 2000 miles and one oil change ago. Hasn't recurred but I'm watching it.
Anybody else? How about a possible explanation that doesn't involve guessing?
#1064 of 1986 I got the bench seat.
Dec 17, 2001 (5:57 am)
And I sort of regret it. Given the choice all over again I'd go with the captains seats. I did carry six people once and actually used the middle of the bench. 3 adults in front and 3 kids in back... which I could not have done with the captains seats. But that was once in 18000 miles of driving. Hardly worth the lack of adjustments you give up daily.
Dec 17, 2001 (6:12 am)
white smoke on startup especially when it is cold out is normal. I do not know where you are from but any vehicle here (indiana) that sits out overnight in the below 30 degree weather will have white smoke until the engine warms up. itll go away when you hit the gas but when you are idling itll smoke. Completely normal i forget the exact reason
On the other hand blue smoke = oil burning. Doesnt sound like this was your problem it was probably just because it was cold out
Dec 17, 2001 (6:34 am)
Thanks jparente/f1jules/ndahi12/duckshooter for the good feedback. My last truck was a '93 Ranger STX 4X4, and I really miss it. When we buy a house, I'm definitely going truck again. I'm very impressed by the quality of my '99 Toyota Sienna, and I, too, loved the engine of the Tundra.
I'm glad to hear the '02 has lumbar, and as long as I garage the truck, I can live w/o heated mirrors and seats, probably. I like BIG (aka Chevy), but my wife likes small. She wants me to get a compact pickup again, but she does like the Tundra.
Dec 17, 2001 (8:14 am)
I've got the captains chairs and like them for the storage space. What I don't like is the inability of my girl friend to get closer. Single men may want to keep that in mind when choosing seats. There are certain things that can't be accomplished with captains chairs... if you know what I mean.
#1068 of 1986 I like big trucks also
Dec 17, 2001 (8:24 am)
Those giant Ford Superduty F350, long bed 4x4s are nice but I wouldn't trade my Tundra reliability for one. The Tundra fits in a standard size garage and it's easy to maneuver and park also, which is a plus.
I suppose if I needed a truck capable of towing or hauling the weights that an F-350 can haul I would have bought one. I don't though so thankfully I didn't have that limitation imposed on me when making my choice in trucks.