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#1267 of 1886 Second thoughts on Quad Purchase
Jan 02, 2002 (1:56 pm)
If it is a choice between the Dakota and the Toyota buy the Toyota. Now with that out of the way keep in mind that most of the posters have an had a problem with their vehicle and need to vent. Any vehicle, regardless of brand can have problems. Yes the domestics probably have a higher share. I have a 2000 Dakota Quad Cab. It is 2 wheel drive with the 4.7l v8 and the 5 speed manual. It has been back to the dealer once because of a faulty remote door opener which was replaced on the spot. I have been fortunate to have purchased my Dodge from a 5 star dealer who deserves the rating. I also have a Dodge dealer a mile from my home who is aspiring to 5 star status. They do the service on our 2 1999 Neons and all our warranty repairs. My parents both drive older Toyotas that they bought new. They have provided exceptional service although they have had parts break over the years. The Toyota dealer is adequate and they they are fair as they seem to overcharge everyone equally. I am on my second Dakota and have not had unusual problems with brake pads or rotors. I suspect that is the case with the majority of Dakota owners. So buy your Toyota and I hope you enjoy driving it as much as I enjoy My Quad. Rick
#1268 of 1886 Second thoughts on Quad Purchase
Jan 02, 2002 (6:33 pm)
Toadman, thanks for the sympathy. Iowabigguy, I am having second thoughts on the QC but I am definitely being realistic about this. One minor problem, which I think this is going to be, won't make me throw in the towel. Unfortunately I didn't buy the QC from a 5 Star dealer so I hope that isn't a problem. They too are striving to be a 5 Star dealer so maybe they will go out of there way to make this problem right.
I also agree with you that this board is probably skewed towards disgruntled Dakota owners who need to vent over their problems but it seems that the Toyota site doesn't have as many unhappy owners griping. I hope that my future posts will be positive and will focus on the QC's nice ride, power and passenger room and not the little things that give it a bad name.
I drop the QC off on Friday so I'll give an update on the diagnosis(the engine turns over but it won't start unless I push the gas pedal to the floor) and the dealer experience.
#1269 of 1886 Furrydog - Toyota gripes
Jan 03, 2002 (8:24 pm)
All may be well at the Toyota love fest site you visited, but problems do exist. Visit tundrasolutions.com to get a real view of what's happening.
#1270 of 1886 furrydog Re: Dakota forum
Jan 04, 2002 (5:47 am)
CB, one of the reasons that one may see more problems is statistical given the greater activity of the Dakota's owner group and the number of sub topics. This is an extremely active site. I am on a Jeep Wrangler topic subscription as well, and have not seen a post in months (including any answer to a question I posed some months ago). I continue to be a happy Quad owner and think it's a great truck that meets my particular needs. Will I ever incur problems (other than a faulty air bag light)? I am certain that I will because it is only a product designed and manufactured by human hands. Do I love this truck? Darned right, I do!
#1271 of 1886 Furrydog, excellent advice
Jan 04, 2002 (6:57 am)
from Bobsyvee, do check out Tundrasolutions.com
You'll find brake horror stories galore, almost incurable front end shimmys, piston slap, sqeaks n rattles, premature interior fabric wear and a heck of a lot of terrible Dealer service or non service, if you will.
BTW....This is NOT meant to start any kind of Dodge vs Toyota thing here, just relaying what the Toyota owners are alreay saying about their trucks.
That said, I still think they make a pretty good product, BUT they have NOT re-invented the wheel as some might have us believe.
#1272 of 1886 Gripes
Jan 04, 2002 (8:05 am)
I used to have a Toyota Tacoma extended cab, before I upgraded to a Dakota QC. I had severe tire wear problems and a pull to the right that never got fixed in the 3 years I had the truck. I also had some seat fabric wear. That said, it was good basic transportation, just too costly for the tire problems, too small and too underpowered. And the dealer didn't seem to want to fix the tire/pulling problem. But I checked out the 4 dr Tundra, too. It was OK, but it seemed very cramped in the back seats, and I did not like the back doors at all.
#1273 of 1886 Dealership:1 Furrydog:0
Jan 04, 2002 (6:14 pm)
Well, they couldn't reproduce the starting problem in the QC. Yesterday it happened 3 times where the engine wouldn't start until we pushed the pedal to the floor and now today it starts every time for them. They ran it through the computer and started it 15 times and no problems detected. Maybe I will luck out and the problem has magically disappeared but with my track record I am sure this problem will continue. If anybody has any ideas please let me know.
One more thing... I have about 1500 miles before I change the oil so I was wondering what everybody's experience has been with this? Easy access to the filter, drain plug, etc? Thanks.
#1274 of 1886 THIS IS HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK
Jan 04, 2002 (7:31 pm)
If you encounter the problem again, Your dealer should be able to connect a device to your truck that monitors all activity and "logs" any failures. (such as no-start condition)
The idea is that you drive around with this device connected to your truck for a week or so and then return to your dealer. The gathered information can then be "downloaded" to your dealers diagnostic computer and anaylized. Your data can even be fed to the "main office" for further diagnosis by engineers trained to do this kind of stuff.
A failing sensor, relay or solenoid should easilly be detected using this diagnostic method.
I know this sounds pretty HI-TECH but keep in mind that all Dodge dealers are supposed to have the diagnostic computer and training to do this.
(It is not a lack of TECHNOLOGY but an apparent hesitation to USE the available technology that all the Dodge dealers have at their disposal.)
Jan 07, 2002 (2:24 pm)
It might be the crankshaft position sensor; I used to have a Saturn that showed the same symptoms and that was the problem. Also, I seem to remember that 1 or 2 QC owners have posted about this.
#1276 of 1886 dakota computer chip
Jan 07, 2002 (3:20 pm)
Has anyone found anybody offering a high performance chip for the 2001 dakota 4.7?
I talked to mopar and they said they would
not be developing a chip. This sux because
the truck is sporty but is restricted to 100
mph. Now I don't drive around at or above
100 mph. But occasionally I might need to
exceed that limit. If anybody has heard of
some news on performance computer products
please let me know. oh by the way I have
25,000 miles on my truck and the only
complaint other than the lack of support
on the computer is the brakes squeak