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#416 of 475
Late night ramblings...... by texaszach
May 26, 2000 (5:09 am)
Flamingo26....I could never find a word on the Dodge web site to substantiate the rumor of a free bedliner on Dakotas purchased in May. Regarding your seats, there is no question that your salesman could have done a better job presenting the features and options on the truck. The question is, can you find what you want elsewhere if you walk away? It's late in the season and the dealer inventory of QC is not that great in some areas. I think I would approach the salesman using this tact. "we had a misunderstanding regarding these seats and since District was not able to change the order to the seats I really want, how about splitting the cost of the bucket seat option with me?" It never hurts to ask!


Iowabigguy...thank you very much, I bookmarked their site am going to peruse it in the morning.


JoyJr...I feel your pain! In my opinion, you lose leverage with the dealer once you have signed the papers. I don't think its possible to "buff out" runs in the paint, that calls for sanding and repainting. Your truck is the worst color for showing scratches and any imperfections under the paint is magnified as well. I would not want a buffer used on my brand new black truck. I've seen too many black vehicles with swirls and buffer marks.


Personally, I would not take the vehicle in hopes that Chrysler would take care of it afterwards. And this scenario the salesman has come up with is a complete laugher, he is trying to pressure you into taking the truck before its repaired. I only wish there was complete disclosure on what damage a vehicle has sustained while being built and transported to the dealer, it would probably scare the heck out of a us! New cars that were damaged and repaired between birth and sale are purchased every day in this country by unsuspecting buyers who are NEVER made aware of the cars history. Me? I would walk away from this one.


Take care and be safe all,


Zach
#417 of 475
colbates hooray for you by bookitty
May 26, 2000 (10:52 am)
colbates, congratulations on your moving forward on this truck. The green is a great color, and it is the other color I considered before Amber Fire.
Almost all of my vehicles have been green (by choice) and my wife told me that it was time for a change. Always forget the deal, as that is past history and "it's over!" Now, it is time to thoroughly enjoy your new Quad. Good luck.


Bookitty
#418 of 475
joyjr My expertise is limited by bookitty
May 26, 2000 (11:04 am)
Actually, I'm really not as patient as would appear. It is just that I had the luxury of keeping my company leased Expedition for some time after I retired. As far as the buffing goes, I tend to agree with texaszach as to swirls, etc.
Whatever happens, don't let anyone pressure you into a decision until you have explored all options. If you decide to allow D/C to repaint the
doors (and I'm certain that it would be done locally as in "dealer body shop"), then you must have assurance in writing that it must be done to your satisfaction. Even then, there are folks on this forum who could offer up advice that would carry a far higher level of expertise than I could muster. Whatever path you choose, I wish you the best.


Bookitty
#419 of 475
Morning Stalling by lmeyer1
May 26, 2000 (11:53 am)
I also belong to the Dakota Mailing List. A number of people there have reported stalling and idle fluctuations in the 4.7. No one seems to have an answer, however. Sorry I couldn't do better for you.
#420 of 475
joyjr by tpmiller
May 26, 2000 (12:03 pm)
I wouldn't sign off nor "buy" the dealer's disclosure crap cause if it's going to be done right the dealer is going to have no problem moving the vehicle to someone else, disclosure or not. My dealer had three legitimate offers for my truck, because it was an eight cylinder and we are in the gap between the 00's and 01's. If it can be corrected to your satisfaction, you'll sign, if not, ask to speak to the district manager about going to the head of the '01 line.
#421 of 475
joyjr by lmeyer1
May 26, 2000 (12:16 pm)
Your dealer's logic is impeccable.


On the one hand, if he makes and discloses the repair, the truck will be harder to sell. If this is true, then as a practical matter it means he'll probably end up lowering the price to get it to move.


Yet, on the other hand, he thinks you, and apparently only you, should pay full price (i.e., the price you agreed to assuming an unblemished truck). HUH???????


If it were me, I wouldn't take delivery until it was fixed to my satisfaction, even if I had to wait another three months. But that's mainly because the load your dealer is shoving your way would get my back up pretty quickly.


Also, it's easy for me to say since I'm not the one who has to turn his back on his truck.


Good luck.
#422 of 475
Mileage & Misc. by towcrazy2
May 26, 2000 (12:57 pm)
I've been away from the forum this week due to meetings in Detroit (ironically with Ford clients). This forced me to run my QC (still breaking in) in some rather horrific driving conditions, both highway and city... Even had to put it near the floor a couple of times to get through heavy traffic.


BUT... I stopped to refill yesterday, and was absolutely astounded by the gain mileage since the previous fill-up. The 5.9 jumped from 12.8 to 14.2 mpg! This may not sound very impressive to those of you with the 4.7, but I drove Ram 5.9 with smooth-fitting cap for 5 years, and NEVER achieved more that 13.8 mpg.


Picked up the Fold-a-Cover yesterday... Read through the iinstallation instructions, and it looks like about 8-10 hours for a proper install (how I'll spend my weekend). Hoping the tonneau will net me a fractional increase in mileage, and waiting to see the final mpg outcome after the engine's fully broken in.


STEVE234:
VERY sorry to hear of your continuing frustration and wish I could offer a solution.


If your new dealer is a Five Star store, you might suggest that you're disappointed in any failure to honor the original purchase price... and that your scoring on the CSI survey probably won't help his standings. If you really wanted to apply some non-legal leverage, you might also suggest that you will contact DC in writing to question the dealer's Five-Star status.


TEX:
Your comments concerning the Quad vs. the F350 "land barge" always draw a chuckle! I can relate! Driving the QC makes me realize just how much WORK it was to pilot the Ram!


KIRK:
Thanks for the tip on the flaps! I purchased a set from the dealership, but have not installed and may still return them without penalty since they're off-the-shelf rather than special-order. I'll check out the site, and see what they have to offer!


MISC:
-- Installed Lund bug shield with eyebrows and vent visors on all 4 doors... Wind noise at speed is slightly higher, but those visors are sure great in the rain!!!


-- Spent the week down at a Ford training center, where my QC was rather conspicuous sitting there amongst virtually every 2000 model Ford imaginable - both car and truck. We broke up on Tuesday, and a dealership General Manager (driving a Sport Trac) wandered over as I was packing my stuff up in the back seat... He was more than a bit curious about the QC... Asking lots of questions... Asked me why I didn't order a Sport Trac instead... I explained that the issues were power and garageability... He questioned the power issue until I explained that it's 360 cubes and rattled off the torque, hp, and power-to-weight ratios off to him... He walked away sort of scratching his head.


Sorry for the wordiness and regards to all!
#423 of 475
receiving an ordered truck by bja4
May 26, 2000 (1:20 pm)
     The whole idea behind ordering a truck is to get the truck with the options and colors you want. I ordered a new truck because I could not find a club-cab with a V8, 5 spd., and a 3.92 rear-end (new or used). Everything with a v8 was totally loaded (95% automatics).
     This doesn't mean the build quality should be any different because the ordered truck was built for you. I took delivery of our new truck with the bed misaligned. The misaligned bed was somewhat fixed the following week. Somewhat fixed because they forgot to tighten 3 of the bed bolts and left the rear bumper misaligned. I have since written a letter to Bob Ferrero, the owner of the dealership. In this letter, I praised his sales staff, but attacked his body shop for the poor workmanship. Thanks to a previous forum about replacing used bed bolts, I will be getting all new bed bolts (I hope). The dealership wanted to pick my truck up from my house (20 miles away) and bring it back when the repairs were complete. I said my wife will drive it there, and wait for it to be repaired. I don't trust any body else driving it after that kid technician drove it. The kid thought I was gone so he could spin the rear tires as he left the parking lot. He did not realize that I came back outside to see if he would treat the the truck the way I asked his too (take it easy-it's new).
   I have experienced some hard starting after stalling the truck in the sand-dunes. But this is normal as I was learning I need to give the truck more gas when plowing through deep sand.
#424 of 475
towcrazy by lmeyer1
May 26, 2000 (1:35 pm)
If you get a chance, when you're all done putting the fold-a-cover on, I'd love to get an update about how easy it is to remove for large loads.


Thanks in advance.
#425 of 475
Back by andy_jordan
May 26, 2000 (2:38 pm)
Sorry guys - went AWOL for a while.


Back now, but only skimmed through the 100s of missed posts. If I missed anything directed my way I apologise, ask me again and I'll do my absolute bestest to make amends

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