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Well, new additions to the Ranger... by cpousnr
Jun 21, 2000 (12:27 pm)
and still under $20K total cost.


Getting a Warn front receiver hitch today, going to install myself.


The winch, a Ramsey 8000 with roller fairline should come it this week.


Hope to have it installed and running this weekend all for under $1,000, winch, platform, hitch and hookups.


I will be ready for just about anything when it is done.
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From another discussion board... by mviglianco1
Jun 21, 2000 (3:05 pm)
and a little more on topic:


"I got invited to a pre-run for this year’s camp jeep on June 16-18 (yes I took my Taco). About 60 tour guides were there along with a rep from Warn winch, two Chrysler Jeep engineers and a Chrysler marketing guru. The Chrysler Jeep people took many of the guides out for dinner and one of the engineers was talking about how they test the jeep and new ideas they come up with. One thing he said they do is, buy a 4x4 from every manufacture and run them real hard until they break. The test is a little bit scientific because they tear them down to see how they’re made, mic um out, put meters and gauges on different things, then taken out to run the hell out of them to try & break um. Once broken it’s taken back into the shop and torn down again to learn the how’s and why’s of the breakage. Now when asked what kind of stuff they have learn, this Jeep engineer told all these super Jeep lovers on a Camp Jeep pre-run what we Toyota lovers have known for a long time. He said what he has learned is that Toyota’s don’t break!!! He said they have a really hard time trying to get them to break compared to others and many time are just unsuccessful in braking the Toyota’s. After dinner and the next day my Taco became popular, everyone wanted to check her out and see how she is made."
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MVIG by hindsite
Jun 21, 2000 (5:02 pm)
That was a great post and what makes Toyota a Toyota.
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yep by spoog
Jun 21, 2000 (5:04 pm)
Great post man! Those Jeep engineers know what they are talking about. Now you know PART of the reason why Toyotas cost a bit more........
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by scape2
Jun 22, 2000 (4:22 am)
Give me the Toyota I'll break it in about 5 minutes.....
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Response by semaphore
Jun 22, 2000 (3:07 pm)
modvptnl: "son...are you using my AOL again?"
vince8, cthompson21: ...and telepathy tells me that you live in Alaska and are made of ham.


Nah...I'm sure you're all rugged types that could survive any prolonged winter/summer in a remote forest/desert if left only with your wits, swiss army knife, and a box of EZ-Strike wooden matches.


I prefer to buy the most proven, well-crafted item whether that be electronics, golf clubs, hunting gear or automobiles. First, it's raw non-propaganda factoids and THEN I may check a message board or two like this to read actual consumer comments (not expecting a soap opera). I chose Toyota because of proven track-record and craftmanship. Autos are not people, they are machines and the Toyota machine IS better. There are better automakers than Toyota, but they don't sell trucks.


So. It's annoying to see a bunch of rats in Edmund's Car Review Messageboard (of all places...??) taking up WELFARE space when there are boards like MSNBC, Raging Bull, APBNews and countless others like Fred's cabled 486 down the road that are meant for armchair environmentalists, armchair politicians and wanna-be manipulators or know-it-alls. Because I wonder how much useful information is lost or scrolled off into never-never because a few people want to argue over who has factory-signatured lug nuts or how to save the squirrels.


If nothing else and if you really think it is your duty to do so, at least try and change the world through a more well-traveled board like the ones mentioned above or others.


PS: "vs" can also mean real-life experience like "i've owned both. i like this one better because... Now I will go to Raging Bull and post my views of the world" instead of "i own a Ford and ah hev this here buddy, fRank, who owns a Toyota. I can whup him good in the south 40 swamp" or how you beat some nameless, faceless entity in the competing vehicle off the blocks at the light on 12th street (was it your grandpa? did the competing driver even know he was supposed to be racing you?).
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new member by surffla1
Jun 22, 2000 (3:18 pm)
OK folks I am new to this chat room. I have really enjoyed reading all the responses and can see that this is a lively and heartfelt topic. Although the debate seems to have cooled some of late. Maybe I can get everyone back on course. I will probably be buying a new truck in about a year. I believe it is never to early to start planning. If I had to buy today I would have to go with the Toyota V6 4x4 over the Ranger for reliability, power, and looks. Yes looks, I am not afraid to say it. The Ranger in my opinion takes far too many plastic add ons to look good. Only the Ranger XLT flare side 4X4 comes close to matching the Tacomas muscle tough look. Fortunately I can afford to wait a while and see what the 2001 Ranger with the 4 litre 6 and Edge version will look like. I am also keeping my eye on the Frontier and XTerra. A 250 hp 6 from the Maxima has made it into the Pathfinder. The Frontier and XTerra could be next? The Frontier is rather plain looking and I dont't know that I am ready for the Sport Utility bandwagon, but they might be worth a test drive.
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It never fails by rangerdan
Jun 22, 2000 (10:10 pm)
I joined here to gather information on both the Ford Ranger and Toyota Tocoma. After reading most all of the posts it seems this place is as bad as all others on the Web. Can half of you read? This forum is for posts related to only two topics. Please write about the topic.


I have owned two Toyota truck and two For Rangers. All have been good trucks with over 150,000 miles totaled on every one. Neither of them are perfect, some have been better than the others. I am and have been a certified Mechanic for 20 years and have seen a lot of cars and trucks. I can tell you all that 9 times out of 10 most all problems are related to the owner, myself included. In 20 years I have not seen one Properly serviced car or truck. I have found that the quality of my own vechicle is in direct proportion to the money, time and service I put into it, not what the manufacture put into it. None of the current manufacturers builds a Bad product, not one of them. In todays market no manufacture can afford it.


I was hoping to come here and find information on problems, details of issues owners have encountered. There is very little of that from what I have found. I have a wealth of information to share if anyone is interrested.


Take care and remember, service, service, service
makes a good truck or car.


Dan
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Service, service, service by mmcbride1
Jun 22, 2000 (10:13 pm)
Makes a mechanic wealthy...
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mmcbride1 / Service, service, service by rangerdan
Jun 22, 2000 (10:26 pm)
I am not wealthy. I teach reapir classes for people to service thier Rangers or Tocomas instead of sitting on the ass's and cpmplaining about it.


Both trucks are good trucks on any form. Both have their faults. But I must say that after 300,00 in both I prefer the Ranger. Easier to work on, parts more readly available and cheaper cost with about the same wear rates.


How many miles do you have in both trucks?


Dan

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