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cpousnr by cthompson21
Jun 11, 2000 (7:11 pm)
You should be able to access the archived topics. Just type Ranger in the topic search. It pulls all of the frozen stuff.
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sales figures by cpousnr
Jun 11, 2000 (11:07 pm)
Ranger Sales figures:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/press/date/19970210/press000898.html


Also, look at Tacoma vs Ranger III posts 185 and 317.


Ranger outsells Tacoma by a wide margin.
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Ranger sales far exceed Tacoma. by cpousnr
Jun 11, 2000 (11:28 pm)
More Ranger Sales, 30,000+ just Ranger:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/press/date/20000601/press017064.html


More Ranger sales, again 30,000+ Rangers sold:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/press/date/20000502/press014506.html


More Ranger sales, 43,000 units:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/press/date/20000403/press012082.html




Ford and the environment(if you want to save the environment, you should be driving Ford:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/press/date/20000422/press013709.html


Toyota Sales, 22,000 total ALL pickups:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/press/date/20000601/press017107.html


Toyota sales, 20,000 units, ALL pickups:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/press/date/20000502/press014524.html


Thats enough for now.


With sales double that of Tacoma, it is highly unlikely that Tacoma outsells Ranger in So. Cal.


All(knowing), perhaps you should change your name?
 
Do not take it personal, just my wit is sometimes sharp.
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Cspounser by spoog
Jun 11, 2000 (11:33 pm)
 \\ But I can hit wilderness areas all over
this state where you have to walk 20-30 miles to
hit the next road. \\






No. There is not one place in Colorado that is 20 miles from a road. You must be thinking of the GReater YEllowstone Ecosystem or the Bob Marshall in Montana. And by road, I am talking maintained dirt or gravel.






As for the "land grab" in Montezuma....let me ask you this question:


How were these people "denied" access?
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Cspounser by spoog
Jun 11, 2000 (11:40 pm)
Read your RM link.


Tozer sounds like yet another uneducated conspiracy goofball on corporate welfare for his ranching. HE has no respect for the ruin and burial grounds? The guy just walks up and disturbs a marking. How rude.
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carlady by mzn
Jun 12, 2000 (12:31 am)
Friends, post #482 has been hidden because it contains a link which skews our screen size. To read it, just click on "Hidden." Thanks!


carlady/roving host
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spoog by cpousnr
Jun 12, 2000 (1:02 am)
In the Sangre de Cristo Wilderness, the distance between Music Pass road and Medano Pass road is easily 20 miles. But even if it were 10-15 miles, so what? Once you get off the trail, you will loose site of any vehicle within 100 yards.


Your being too radical.


But what is your point on access roads? As long as visitors are responsible for thier actions and follow the rules, there are not problems. The vehicles to be licensed in the state for the most part have to pass emissions standards. My truck basically has water and a bit of CO2 in its exhaust. The 4X4 clubs in this area help to keep the trails open and I assure you police people who act without regard to the environment.


Now compare that to just running a PreRunner or 4X4 flat out in open fields or desert, with no regard to what you are destroying. Also, since you have bragged about it, how friendly to the environment is it to drag race Rangers and, as you stated, get 3 speeding tickets? That is a WASTE of natural resources, increased the need for foreign oil(which is NOT restricted in how it pollutes when getting oil), pollutes the atmosphere and could result in death or destruction of some of natures wonders.


If you read the article I posted, the intent of the action is very unclear. As it is thought, firewood cutting will be prohibited which will increase the chances of forest or brush fires, cattle grazing will be eliminated and more.


BTW, in the last 2 years, I have planted 137 trees on my property, tended them, provided houses for 4 bluebird families and pulled trash out of the Pike Nat. Forest.


Other than burn rubber, waste gas, endanger yourself and others to bodily harm, what have you done for the environment?


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cpousnr, CT again by allknowing
Jun 12, 2000 (3:13 am)
The Tacoma is apparently outselling the Ranger in So. Calif. no matter what your posts are saying. I hear the Tacoma ad about every fifteen minutes on the radio milking that fact for all its worth. I see Tacomas everywhere around here too. I think your posts are not up to date or Toyota will be sued soon for false advertising. The Ranger is certainly outselling Toyota by about three times nation wide but not in California. My Ford, or should I say my wife's Ford, is a 98 XLT.
You and CT are really having a problem with the facts that I'm giving you but the Ford is harder to control off road than the TRD, especially when you pick up some speed. You may not think that that's relevant CT but I see it as shortfall of the Ranger package because the suspension is not as adept to off roading as the TRD package. You guys can rationalize that to make yourselves feel better but that's just the way it is. Your 4x4 will take you places that a PreRunner can't go but the TRD PreRunner's suspension is still superior to the suspension offered by Ford.
If you guys think that I'm an evil Californian by hitting a pre-determined trail at more than a few miles an hour so be it. At least I stay in specified areas when I do that and it allows me to get to places in one day that you guys may take in two or three. Anyway cpousnr, until I hear that Toyota is being sued for false advertising, or Ford making the same claim tha they're the best selling truck in So. Ca., I'll continue to know you're incorrect again.
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CT, cpousnr by allknowing
Jun 12, 2000 (3:26 am)
I was re-reading my post and I'm coming off a little too intense. Sorry about that guys. I disagree with you but I don't want to become an A hole in the process. One more note, I care about the environment as much as you guys, however, I really don't have trouble with someone taking a fire road or trail at a higher speed than a crawl. Those trails were put into some areas for that purpose in my opinion and staying on them protects the area overall.
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allknowing by cpousnr
Jun 12, 2000 (12:47 pm)
no offence taken.


Well, Toyota also claims the Tacoma has 12" ground clearance. Guess they get away wiht it because somewhere on the vehicle there is 12" of clearance.


I measured and have a picture of about 10" clearance, slightly less actually, at the rear differential of a Tacoma (my trusty Stanley tape measure shows it rather well).


My pet peeve on 4 wheelers hurting the environment is the fools that do depart the existing roads, without regard to what they are running over.

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