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#399 of 768 Been Looking---dealer by ottograf Apr 29, 2001 (7:45 pm)
I order any GM/Ford/Dodge I want from a dealer in South Georgia at $300 over invoice and never give them any $$$ until I see the vehicle and tell them I want it---fact is the last vehicle I ordered he gave me the keys and thanked me before I reminded him that he needed to be paid---great experience---have done business with them for 14 years---they work by salary and not commission---I am sure you should be able to find such a dealer where you live---I would ask around PS---If anyone can tell me where to find the new options/changes on the Ford Super Duty F250 for the year 2002 please email me if possible---thanks! Tom at TSSawyeraol.com
#400 of 768 187ms by bess Apr 29, 2001 (8:06 pm)
Engine choice should really be based on what you want to do with the truck.. Although the SuperDuty is 'alot of truck', in some configurations the SuperDuty weighs about as much as an Expedition SUV which runs just find with the 5.4L. More opinions of mine: 5.4L: - if your towing needs are light (by superduty standards) - if your towing needs are infrequent - works really well with the 5sp manual. (and I hear a 6sp tranny will be available in 2002). (I'm not a fan of automatic trannys anyway. The 4r100 seems to take up more of the 5.4L power, causing it to shift more often than I prefered). - 4.10 ratio is a preference of mine. mileage is excellent (better than an Expedition), power is excellent.. (Think of an F150 with the 4.6L). - is not 'underpowered' as some folks might claim. V10: - need to tow heavy - need to tow often - works well with 5sp and auto tranny.. - 3.73 works for most folks, unless you really need extra towing capacity or you plan to install larger aftermarket tires) - is an awsome engine with more power than the 5.4L (duh), but at a price of 2 mpg's city and 1mpg highway (best case) Again, the above is just my opinion.. 00 F250 xlt SC 4x2 5.4L 5sp 4.10LS overall mpg for life of the truck 15.5
#401 of 768 Thanks, Bess by 187ms Apr 30, 2001 (12:58 am)
Thanks for the info. And please forgive my ignorance in the subject, but in this realm, I am a complete newbie. What's the difference between the 4.10 and the 3.73 axle ratios? And what benefit, if any, does the limited slip axle provide? Thanks again for all your help. Cheers, -Charlie edmunds linuxninja.org
#402 of 768 187ms by bess Apr 30, 2001 (8:28 pm)
Good honest questions.. no problem.. 3.73= for every 3.73 revolutions of the driveshaft, the tires go 1. so, when you go to a higher rear diff ratio (numerically) the engine will be at a higher RPM for a given speed, than a lower ratio.. Rpm at 65mph: (stock tires) 3.73 = 1900 rpms 4.10 = 2100 rpms The higher ratios (numerically) give more of a 'punch' and increase towing capacity, but if you run too high of a ratio it can use more fuel and affect mpg.. The lower ratios can increase mpg's (if you do alot of highway driving), but if your towing or doing alot of city driving, the tranny may have to shift down a little more often if the rpm's drop too low.. (thus negating any mpg advantage in the city or while towing). Limited slip: (this is an oversimplified description): With a normal diff (open diff), basically only as much torque is applied to the ground as the wheel with the least resistance will support.. Ok, in english, only one rear wheel spins, the one thats on the slipperier surface). With the limited slip diff, even the wheel that on the more solid surface gets some extra torque. It doesn't get as much as if the diff was fully locked up (like if it was a solid axle), but more than an open diff. So, if one wheel is in mud, and the other on dry pavement: with the open-diff, your stuck. With the limited slip diff, you might get out.. To summarize my rambling: 4x2 without LS = 1 wheel drive 4x2 with LS = 2 wheel drive (both rears) 4x4 without LS = 2 wheel drive (1 front, 1 rear) 4x4 with LS = 3 wheel drive (1 front, both rears) I hope this helps
#403 of 768 Thanks again, Bess by 187ms May 01, 2001 (12:07 am)
Thanks again for all of your assistance with this decision making process. You've been a great help and I really appreciate it. Cheers, -Charlie
#404 of 768 Re: Changes for 2002 by wpalkowski May 01, 2001 (6:32 am)
Hi, Here's a link for the changes to Superduties for 2002. http://www.sunrisefordfleet.com/guides/
#405 of 768 Bowhuntwi ?? by dcaps May 01, 2001 (10:05 pm)
Are you thinking about changing to the V10 or the Dodge CC for any reason in particular? Your rig is set up like the one that I have been looking for and I was wondering if you have any concerns that I should be wary of.
#406 of 768 dcaps.......... by bowhuntwi May 02, 2001 (7:53 am)
This was my first Ford, and it was a big step. I'm very happy with the truck its self, but the buying ordeal & dealer workmanship has %#*. I have only had minor problems with it, but the horror stories I have heard on here about the 4wd systems failing or the engines after the warranty. I have taken a look at the extended warranties, the future dodge cc or getting into another F250 from a differant dealer, if I traded trucks, I would only do it as swapping payments, I wouldn't go to a higher payment. If I don't trade I will buy the extended for the peace of mind. Took my truck to the dealer last week, he had it for 2 days, he replaced the cab mounts (2nd time) and fixed the front springs, also there was a clinking noise on hitting bumps. To find this noise, they basically stripped the back seat and all trim out of the truck. I told them I thought it was coming from inside the door. On the report I got when picking it up, it stated it was in the C-Pillar rear driver's side, unable to locate exact place, so they took expanding spray-in sealer and filled that space inside that pillar support, now they say that noise is gone. They also said they looked inside the door and found nothing. Here's the kicker, while putting the panel on the pillar, they broke a couple of the tabs thinking I wouldn't notice, plus they got sealer on the side of the back seat. Took it in last Saturday, told them of my findings, they ordered a new panel & back seat cover, looking at that seat, it seems it would be easier to replace the seat back then the seat cover. For that visit minus the stuff they screwed up, they charged Ford Warranty $741.00. Yes, it's bad that when a person has 38K + into a truck that you can't get good service. I have learned my lesson. I had thought I had researched enough, apparently I hadn't, plus I found this site after I had ordered my truck. I have learned alot from the people on all the forums. Dan the setup of the truck is find, research your dealer, nothing can leave a more bitter taste then dealing with a dealer that could care less after you drive it off the lot. Just thinking of dealing with these people if I have something major happen........... This Ford dealer also has a dodge dealership right next door, when I bought a new Y2K01 durango, I stopped in to see what they could do on a new one since I had boughten my 98 D from them. The 98 D was mainly the reason I went to their Ford D. I had gotten good service from dodge (same family owned). Now they have moved their Dodge dealership next to their ford shop and aquired the ford attitude. I walked out of their dodge dealership vowing I would never buy another vehicle from their dealerships.
#407 of 768 Bowhuntwi by dcaps May 02, 2001 (11:09 am)
It's amazing how lousy dealerships can stay in business, but I guess it makes a difference when you have a monopoly . The Ford dealerships in Central Oregon are separated by at least 1/2 an hour of highway driving. I know way too many people and businesses that will drive an hour or more, bypassing one or two Ford dealerships, to buy and service their vehicles. It's a shame. I'm certain Ford Corporate has an on-line spot for dealership complaints. Whether or not they do anything about it is another story. I guess the good news is that great threads like this one will get that information out and it makes a huge difference to someone, like myself, who is contemplating his first purchase of a new truck off of the lot. Lots of my friends/clients have given me the scoop on the three dealerships nearest to home and it looks like I will be driving a bit to order my truck when I finally figure out what in the heck I want. Thanks for the info!
#408 of 768 Platinum Edition Lariot by fredvon4 May 03, 2001 (2:48 pm)
Thanks to this board and others I took possession on April 28 of new F-250 SOF 4x4 crew/short V10 Auto 3.73LS. Only disappointment so far is the small fuel tank. All the literature talks 38 gal and mine with the short box is 29 gal. First 500 miles are at 12.5mpg via the on board computer and my manual math 12.433mpg avg. Pretty much what all of you with similar rigs stated. OK all you who have a few years more experience with this truck than I. Questions: 1. Do I have any fuel tank options (local ford service does not think so)? 2. If larger diameter tires are used is the speedo recalibrateable? By me? By Ford? 3. As this is a big tall truck already, I prefer NOT to lift it. Having said that, does anybody have experience with the largest (height + width) tire that will clear the front fender/bumper? 4. Unimpressed with chilton/peterson books...is the Ford service manual worth getting? 5. I will be installing a very complex HAM radio system (75 amp draw on the 12v buss). The question is: Does anybody have experience with the computers in newer Ford trucks shutting down/dieing due to high wattage RF?(have been told not to go higher than 300w PEP) Again Bess and all others great board, hope I can contribute more soon. Fred KD5NCO