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| Werking, no, I'm not biased. I do not have a truck right now, but I am gonna purchase one in the near future. I test drove a '00 Dodge Dakota Club Cab 4x4 w/4.7L, '00 Ford F-150 Supercab 4x4 w/5.4L, '00 Chevrolet Silverado Extended w/5.3L engine. Between these three, I preferred the Chevy by a great margin. My parents lease a '98 Chevy 4x4 Extended w/5.7L Vortec. It's very nice, I like driving it. But the new Silverados have all the things improved over what I don't like about it, including small rear seat, high step in height, 3 doors, door handle on 3rd door impossible to use if you're sitting back there, lots of frame flex, and not the best looking. Up to the test drive of the Tundra, I didn't even pay attention to the Tundra, when I seen it in magazines, I would just skip the article, and when it would win a comparison, I would just say "that's bs." Then came the test drive of the Tundra, I just wanted to see how they were just for the hell of it. Well it impressed the hell out of me! Very quiet engine, quiet interior, awesome acceleration, and ride quality that I would consider to challenge a Cadillac. Then I looked if it would suit my needs. My needs would be to 1) haul my fourwheeler on the back, without the fourwheeler driving over the wheelwells, and for the tailgate to shut. It qualified. 2) pull 4 or 5 fourwheelers occasionally when we go on trailrides. It also qualified. Then I seen some cool features it has, like lockable tailgate, to make it virtually impossible for someone to steal my fourwheeler off the back. It also has a lockable fuel filler door, making it extremely hard for someone to put things not resembling gasoline in the gas tank. Things I didn't like about it: rear seat was small. This didn't matter a whole lot, since I'm not planning on being in the back seat very often! Price, I can get one for about the same as I can get a Silverado, so that is no big deal. Size: yeah, it's slightly smaller in dimensions compared to the others, so if you want, put it in the Dodge Dakota's class if you want, I guess. If that's the case, then the Tundra is way too big for the class compared to the Dakota, so why don't we move the Dakota into the compact class with the Ranger and S-10, so the Tundra will be the only one in the midsize category. Now do you see what I mean? The Tundra fits best in the full size category. I think a slightly smaller truck would be an advantage for me anyway. Easier to park, has the tightest turning diameter of them all, highest ground clearance, would fit in our garage better, doesn't take up half the road and then some, will have more clearance in parking garages (if you have aftermarket headlights on) and less sheetmetal area=faster to wash and wax and easier on the arms, hands, and wrists! Well, I've said enough on this subject. I'm still gathering information on what truck to buy, but the Tundra looks like the one it will be. Plus they have those cool colors that change in different shades of light. I went out and test drove them all (except for the Ram), so I wouldn't go out and buy one and then say "oh man, I wish I would have gotten the other one." Now I know what they're all like. By the way, the Tundra's little 4.7L engine will give the Silverado's 5.3L one hell of a run for it's money! | |
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In post #82 you said "My Uncle and Cousin went to test one (Toyota Tundra), but that dealer did refuse to let em put the haul too it." But Bobby Joe had said that Franklin was his Grand Son. How does that make him your cousin? Unless .... (kinda makes you go: hmmmm) |
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| Read the bio, anit too hard to figure this one out now. Me and Franklin be cousins, never said 1st cousins now. Got to admit we did have too 3rd cousins get hitched, but they aint had no youngins as of yet. | |
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TRUCKSRME.....any chance it was you playing the banjo in Deliverence? And does your family tree have any branches in it????? kind of makes you go hmmmmmmm...yuck! What kind of haul in the phrase "squeal like a pig" |
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See, I knew you had a sense of humor 
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arkie6: quite frankly, my motives are simple. to use you folks as a source of entertainment and comic relief. i love sitting at my desk each day imagining you with your eyes closed, hands clasped together saying, "i wish i had a full-size truck. i wish i had a full-size truck. i wish i had a full-size truck..." rooster: you talked about some things that i think many people consider when buying a four-wheel drive/work truck. step-in height, acceleration, ride quality "that [you] would consider to challenge a Cadillac", easier to park, tightest turning radius, less sheetmetal to clean, and cooler colors. ask anyone on here and i think you'll find these items top their list of discriminating factors as well - NOT. how can you say that dakota should be classed with the s-10 and ranger? the only spec that tundra wins when compared to dakota is hauling capacity (by 900 lbs) and the dakota is sporting a v6, while the tundra has the v8. dakota is physically bigger than tundra. so, no, i wouldn't consider putting dakota back with s-10 and ranger, i would pit tundra vs. dakota as the only two currently in the mid-sized class. as for the tundra 4.7L V8 hanging with the chevy 5.3L V8, i don't think so. the chevy's specs for hauling/payloading/towing all outperform the tundra. if you're talking racing, you're getting the wrong kind of vehicle. also, you mentioned "doesn't take up half the road and then some, will have more clearance in parking garages". the toy is actually a little wider and taller than the silverado, oh by the way. the turning radius is only 3 feet better than the 'rado, which can be attributed to the 15" longer wheelbase, and 10" overall length increase on the 'rado. if you're going to comment on these vehicles, at least do it honestly. for your info: my basis for the comparison today were the tundra access cab 4wd limited and the silverado 1500 ext cab 4wd. all my info is from edmunds. tundra can join dodge as a proud member of "the middle two." how's that? by the way, you say you haven't bought a truck yet. go with the silverado. the discriminating factors you cited will not disappoint you with the silverado. but the first time you sit at a stop light in your new tundra, and a silverado pulls up next to you, you're going to do your best to dust him off the line. you know why? because you'll FEEL inferior. and he'll prob'ly just cruise off the line without ever having noticed you. because he'll know he's driving the best full-size truck (out of three available) on the road today. and he won't even notice you're there. kyle |
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What american beer did they pick as best a couple of years ago? I rest my case..... |
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Markbuck- Is the answer you are looking for "who cares?" |
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So you really think that Tundra owners are wishing they had a full-size truck and feel inferior to Chevy owners? I'll bet whatever amount of $ you want to bet that there is a smaller percentage of tunda owners who regret their purchase than Chevy owners (of the same time frame tundra has been on the market) who regret their purchase. What do you care to wager? Now this will be entertainment and comic relief. Regarding your quote that the "dakota is physically bigger than tundra". Comparing 4x4 extended cabs, the dak is smaller in length, width, height, weight, clearance, front headroom, front shoulder space, and front hip room. Trucks are falling into categories such as "full size", "mid-size", or "compact" with decreasing frequency. If you take exception to Toyota calling their truck full size, then compare it to the Dakota. |
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Kyle, your living in a fantasy world if you think that I am regretting not getting a Silverado. My previous truck was a Chevy and after all of the problems that I had with it I vowed that GM would not get any more of my hard earned dollars. I am completely satisfied with my Tundra, actually could not be happier. I have not had the first problem with it and it fits my needs perfectly. If I had a need to tow loads in excess of 6000+ pounds on a regular basis, I would have went with a Ford F250, not a Silverado. But with the 3/4 ton, I would have sacrificed the smooth, quite, and sporty ride of the Tundra. Alan |
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