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rooster9 said: Go to an auto site and price a Silverado LT, Ford F-150 Lariat, Tundra Limited, and Dodge Ram SLT, you'll see that the Toyota is very competitive. ------------------------------------------------- pricewise tundra may be "competetive". which is sick, cuz you don't get near the truck. i can't talk to the lariat and ram, cuz i haven't checked them out yet. but the silverado LT comes standard with the 5.3 L engine that simply blows the tundra out of the water. here are the applicable stats (straight from edmunds). i'm not even going to talk about interior room cuz that wouldn't be fair. "top of the line" silverado 1500 ext cab, LT msrp: $31,750 max cargo: 1779 lb max towing: 9400 lb gas mileage: 15/18 "top of the line" tundra, access cab 4wd, limited msrp: $28,430 max cargo: 1406 lb max towing: 7100 lb gas mileage: 14/17 better gas mileage and 2300 extra pounds trailering capacity. hmmm, yeah, that's an extra ton and then some. as for the extra $3k on the price tag, i think that can be chalked up to the 6-way power, 2 memory, heated, leather seats standard in the silverado, which, if deleted for the comparable cloth seats in the tundra limited, make the price difference fairly negligible. which brings us back to the fact that, for the same price, you get much LESS truck with the tundra. next, tundra backers will cry out how much more reliable their trucks are/will be. we won't know for sure whether that's true or not for at least a year. and, as i've stated before, we may never be able to truly compare reliability for the simple fact that you're comparing apples and oranges. there will be many fewer tundras sold in the u.s. than each of the big three, because people buying the tundra want an suv that they can do a little work with. people buying the big three want a truck that they know they can use regularly as a work truck, yet still as an suv if they want to. the ratio of people owning tundras and using them as work trucks will always be less than those who own the big three and use them as work trucks. the big three make many variations of 1/2 ton pickups for many different jobs. toyota makes few variations of tundras because they were designed to hit on the suv crowd. tundra is not a full-size truck, and has a long way to go before it will be. i say again - group it with the dakota and nissan frontier...where it belongs. damn...i oughta start publishing this stuff in hardback...it's so long. kyle |
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| Tundra=less truck for more buck. Just use your eyes on this one. The facts be the facts on this one now. Good luck on this one now! | |
| The Tundra limited should be compared to the XLT for the Ford-not the lariat. | |
| Werking and trucksrme, did either of you people test drive a Tundra? | |
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Nope, never did put one to the test now. My Uncle and Cousin went to test one, but that dealer did refuse to let em put the haul too it. I did sit in one now, and it was crampin me up but quick. As for that price compare, that tundra limited should be gettin the compare to the Silverado LS not the LT. Good luck on this one now! |
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yup, i sure did. test drove the big three and the "other one". but i'll tell you this, i test drove the tundra ONLY out of curiosity. i never would have considered buying it cuz it's too small. that's a fact that you can't change. the dodge dakota club cab has a longer wheel base (by 3 inches), more rear seating room (couple inches here too), more engine options, 900 pounds less towing capacity (with the v6 no less!) than the tundra, and a hell of a lot lower price tag. as i said before...tundra is a mid-size, non-work truck. get over it. silverado won the battle of the big three. i have a question for you, do you think now that toyota has claimed to build a "full-size truck" people will start saying "the big four"? i'm kinda doubting it...wonder why??? kyle |
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| They should make a separate topic for biased people like Werking and Trucksrme. Good luck on this one now! | |
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i'm just wondering if you're scared of hearing the truth? sure i'm biased towards chevy, i own one. but if it falls apart, i'm not necessarily going to go right back and buy another. i purchased what i felt was the best product out there. you're biased too, which is why you voice your opinion regarding the tundra. funny, i haven't heard anyone make any logical refutes to the statements about the tundra. 1) it's not a work truck (engine's too small, not enough variations for different jobs/uses) 2) it's not a full sized truck (no matter what they call it, should be compared to dakota) 3) you pay more for less (as much as the top-of-the-line chevy's without the performance specs) 4) clinging to reliability reports from consumer reports holds no water (tundra hasn't been in production long enough to deem it anything but a new product) sure we take digs at it like, nobody's going to start including toyota and call truck manufacturers "the big four", but that's just to get you guys worked up - which is fun. boil it down to the facts and you still don't have a leg to stand on. tundra is a pickup truck that is produced and targeted for the yuppy, up-scale, "i want to show my lexus driving friends my red-neck, tough-guy side by getting a pick-up, but i don't want to sacrifice the comfort of my bmw either..." crowd. comparing it to the ford, dodge, or chevy full-size lines of pick-ups is an insult to the big three... kyle |
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by the way. in the event those of you bragging on tundra haven't been in a chevy lately. the chevy is every bit as comfortable as the tundra was (in my opinion). the interior is very well put together and laid out. nice amenities. but, i'm sure you non-biased tundra folks have all test-driven the big-three and feel that toyota was the best product out there... kyle |
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| Since when is the tellin of the truth baised? Them folks with them tundras just not be gettin it. Tundra=less truck, more buck. Good luck on this one now! | |
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