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#51 of 134
Capacity by quadrunner500
Mar 30, 2000 (7:01 pm)
My '99 1500 1/2 ton long bed 4x4 has a payload of 2035 lbs.


Of course, I didn't buy it for speed or acceleration, but I think it is at least as quick, possibly quicker up to about 30-40 mph, than Tundra. I've run side by side comparisons, and also driven my friend's Tundra. I wrote about them at http://members.aol.com/sturbridg1/utahtrek.html for those unfamiliar. But they are very close, feel very similar. Both shift at exactly 5200 rpm. The 2000 GM's I believe shift at 5600 rpm, having a 285 hp 5.3L available. The Ford Lightning blows either away, and if you need this much speed anyway, you should be driving a pony car.
#52 of 134
werking says it all... by trucksrme
Mar 31, 2000 (1:12 am)
Ya got that one right for sure. Best not do that compare between them tundras and the big3 now. Them that does be feelin foolish for sure. Tundra=less truck for more buck. Good luck on this one now!
#53 of 134
by rooster9
Mar 31, 2000 (3:55 am)
I just want to add to my first post, that I left out that the '99 5.3L it could take by a hair, and the 2000's have more power. I forgot to mention the "5.3L". Keep in mind that the price varies a lot on the Tundra. Go to an auto site and price a Silverado LT, Ford F-150 Lariat, Tundra Limited, and Dodge Ram SLT, you'll see that the Toyota is very competitive. When I did the comparison in prices, I didn't add anything, and found that the Tundra was a few thousand cheaper than the others. Also, if you find the right dealership, usually the big Toyota dealers, you should be able to get a Tundra for the same price as any other truck or cheaper.
#54 of 134
rooster by werking
Mar 31, 2000 (2:46 pm)
rooster9 said:
Go to an auto site and price a Silverado LT, Ford F-150 Lariat, Tundra Limited, and Dodge Ram SLT, you'll see that the Toyota is very competitive.
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pricewise tundra may be "competetive". which is sick, cuz you don't get near the truck. i can't talk to the lariat and ram, cuz i haven't checked them out yet. but the silverado LT comes standard with the 5.3 L engine that simply blows the tundra out of the water. here are the applicable stats (straight from edmunds). i'm not even going to talk about interior room cuz that wouldn't be fair.


"top of the line" silverado 1500 ext cab, LT
msrp: $31,750
max cargo: 1779 lb
max towing: 9400 lb
gas mileage: 15/18


"top of the line" tundra, access cab 4wd, limited
msrp: $28,430
max cargo: 1406 lb
max towing: 7100 lb
gas mileage: 14/17


better gas mileage and 2300 extra pounds trailering capacity. hmmm, yeah, that's an extra ton and then some. as for the extra $3k on the price tag, i think that can be chalked up to the 6-way power, 2 memory, heated, leather seats standard in the silverado, which, if deleted for the comparable cloth seats in the tundra limited, make the price difference fairly negligible. which brings us back to the fact that, for the same price, you get much LESS truck with the tundra.
     next, tundra backers will cry out how much more reliable their trucks are/will be. we won't know for sure whether that's true or not for at least a year. and, as i've stated before, we may never be able to truly compare reliability for the simple fact that you're comparing apples and oranges. there will be many fewer tundras sold in the u.s. than each of the big three, because people buying the tundra want an suv that they can do a little work with. people buying the big three want a truck that they know they can use regularly as a work truck, yet still as an suv if they want to. the ratio of people owning tundras and using them as work trucks will always be less than those who own the big three and use them as work trucks. the big three make many variations of 1/2 ton pickups for many different jobs. toyota makes few variations of tundras because they were designed to hit on the suv crowd. tundra is not a full-size truck, and has a long way to go before it will be. i say again - group it with the dakota and nissan frontier...where it belongs. damn...i oughta start publishing this stuff in hardback...it's so long.


kyle
#55 of 134
once again for them that missed it.... by trucksrme
Mar 31, 2000 (11:44 pm)
Tundra=less truck for more buck. Just use your eyes on this one. The facts be the facts on this one now. Good luck on this one now!
#56 of 134
by Rocles
Apr 01, 2000 (2:31 am)
The Tundra limited should be compared to the XLT for the Ford-not the lariat.
#57 of 134
Did you test one? by rooster9
Apr 01, 2000 (3:19 am)
Werking and trucksrme, did either of you people test drive a Tundra?
#58 of 134
rooster9.... by trucksrme
Apr 01, 2000 (4:19 pm)
Nope, never did put one to the test now. My Uncle and Cousin went to test one, but that dealer did refuse to let em put the haul too it. I did sit in one now, and it was crampin me up but quick.


As for that price compare, that tundra limited should be gettin the compare to the Silverado LS not the LT.


Good luck on this one now!
#59 of 134
rooster9 by werking
Apr 01, 2000 (5:40 pm)
yup, i sure did. test drove the big three and the "other one". but i'll tell you this, i test drove the tundra ONLY out of curiosity. i never would have considered buying it cuz it's too small. that's a fact that you can't change. the dodge dakota club cab has a longer wheel base (by 3 inches), more rear seating room (couple inches here too), more engine options, 900 pounds less towing capacity (with the v6 no less!) than the tundra, and a hell of a lot lower price tag. as i said before...tundra is a mid-size, non-work truck. get over it.
     silverado won the battle of the big three.
     i have a question for you, do you think now that toyota has claimed to build a "full-size truck" people will start saying "the big four"? i'm kinda doubting it...wonder why???


kyle
#60 of 134
Biased people by rooster9
Apr 02, 2000 (3:41 am)
They should make a separate topic for biased people like Werking and Trucksrme. Good luck on this one now!

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