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| You sound bitter! I've ran my Toyota trucks very hard and they really last a long time, even when punished and worked hard. I payed 27K out the door for a fully loaded 4X4 access cab. The snide antique furniture remark could describe 90% of silverado or F-150 owners as well. I've already seen Tundra trucks towing large industrial trailers for commercial firms. The capacity is nearly identical as the other 1/2 ton pickups, so why all the anger? | |
| I think the best thing to do when shopping for anything, is to not be biased and try every one out. Otherwise you'll never know how the "other" ones are. I test drove all the trucks, except for the Ram, which I plan on doing sometime, and now I know what they're all like. I know that past ownership of a vehicle is the biggest deciding factor to what new vehicle someone is gonna buy, especially for pickups. That also makes them biased a lot of times. They'll go out and test drive the brand they like and nothing else, and then they'll never know what the others are like. There could be one that better suits the person's needs. I know a lot of people buy Dodge trucks for their looks, and everyone has different preferences, me personally, don't care for the looks of Dodge trucks. Also, people come in all different sizes and shapes, so one truck might sit comfortably for one person but uncomfortably for another person. I'm sure you all know this, but I just want to say to go into buying something with an open mind. Just because you're last vehicle made by whoever was a lemon, doesn't mean the next one will be, it could be flawless. Some people do a lot of towing, so they will probably opt for a heavy duty truck, and more than likely a diesel. Everyone is different. One thing I can say, is don't give any negative comments about someone's vehicle, mainly in person, it really makes them feel bad, unless you're teasing. I would not like it if I bought a new truck and had a friend take it for a test drive and then say afterwards "well, I like mine better." | |
| Good work on those stats,rwellbaum2 is constantly degrading american quality and praising his Tundra.I'd assume that the Chevy is also priced less. | |
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Damn! I've got to keep my eye on you fibbers! Here's the real stats for those interested in the truth: From edmunds: Chevrolet K1500 extended cab, shortbed HP........230 torque....285 payload...1634 max towing..5000 |
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rwellbaum: You're not comparing equal trucks. As you should have read, Werking was comparing '00 Silverado 1500 vs. Tundra. You are bring up stats on a '99 C/K1500. As anyone should know, the C/K pickups were basically unchanged from '98 except for three new colors, i.e. an old design. Werking was not fibbing, he was only making a more fair comparison. You seem to be trying to mislead people. Why? |
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| Before the flames begin, let me say that one of my vehichles is a '88 Toyota Land Cruiser with 230,000 miles. It can't be bought. I wouldn't even think of selling it, so I am not Anti-Toyota, like you will probably try to label me. | |
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| It's the 1/2 ton I'm comparing. It's straight off edmunds. | |
| You must not have read my post. I never said you weren't comparing 1/2 tons. You were comparing old vs. new. The old C/K is not the truck the new Silverado is. Check Truskrme's post above. It is straight off of Edmund's too. | |
| I have to add that before you look at the hp and torques of both, you should race one at a stop and go lights or something. The Tundra's 4.7L I-Force can easily beat Chevy's 4.8L engine, and I know the '99 it could take by a hair, but the 2000's have more power, so I think they would be either equal or the Chevy would be a hair faster. Now no bad mouthing, I like Chevrolet. | |
| I'm not bitter about anything. Look at Toyota's marketing strategy. Lexus Derived engine, cushy ride on a pickup? Fastest truck on the market? They are marketing the tundra to recreational users. It is more luxurious and carlike than other trucks because it is designed to attract those who want a comfortable vehicle for occassional light hauling. ITs capacity does not equal those of the other trucks. The domestics on the other hand can be optioned out as light duty personal use vehicles OR HEAVY DUTY work trucks with bigger engines and more strength and power. The domestics are likely to be used for the heaviest tasks. So it isn't fair to compare for instance all Silverados, including V6 1500's used as a second vehicle and occassional errand runhner along with 2500's that regularly tow and haul, to Tundras, One of which I have yet to see at a work cite. | |
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