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Aug 27, 2003 (5:46 am)
Thanks for the feedback! Did you get the GMS price right off the gm.com site (or pontiac.com)? If so, where? And is the GMS price the employee price or the supplier dicount price? Thanks for all the help!
Aug 27, 2003 (7:10 am)
The GMS prices were obtained on the GM employee website (GMFamilyFirst.com). Sorry This site is for GM employees only.
GMS stands for - GM employee out of stock. This means that you can get this price off of any dealers lot. There used to be a GMO program where you got even a bigger discount from ordering a car but that program has been done away with and now ordered cars get the same discount.
If I recall correctly, and I may be wrong here, the supplier discount is 4 percent higher than the employee price. So you can use this number to ballpark your price.
Aug 27, 2003 (7:40 am)
John,
You are a wealth of information! Yes, I was told the supplier discount is 4% over GMS.
One last question if I could: would I pay full retail price for options (like a moonroof)? Or is there a discount on the options? Thanks again.
#395 of 401 Yet Even More GMS:
by jasmith52
Aug 27, 2003 (9:33 am)
Options get a bigger discount than the car. It looks like options cost 86 percent of the list price for GMS. Your price will be 4 percent higher.
I pulled up one option (a radio) with an MSRP add of $100. This increased the GMS price of the car by $86. As I recall all of the options get the same discount from the sticker price.
Also, Since you aren't familiar with the program you might like to know: you also get any rebates/incentives/financing that is available to retail customers. So if there is a $2000 rebate (or whatever) then you get that too.
Aug 27, 2003 (9:50 am)
The dealer here did tell me that I could use any current rebate/other offers. But I think he is short changing me on the supplier discount price. Is it possible to actually build a car right on that site and get what the price should be (minus tax and fees of course)? If so, could I email you my dream car and have you put it together for me? I know this may be a lot to ask, but you've been so helpful you've got me spoiled! I appreciate anything you can do for me! Thanks!
Aug 27, 2003 (9:59 am)
Well - I'm not keen to give out my E-mail here.
But if you post (here on Edmunds) the car and options you want I'll look up the GMS price.
You can get a very good Idea of the price of your car using an 7 percent (11 - 4) discount on the base car and a 90 percent (14 - 4) discount on the options.
Also, be aware that just because you can configure a car in a certain manner on the website doesn't mean that the car has been built or ever will be built. Options are scheduled in the factory and sometimes not all combinations ever get built.
Aug 27, 2003 (10:25 am)
I completely understand about certain option combinations not being available. If you don't mind, here's what I'm looking at:
2004 GT2
Greystone metallic - exterior
Dark pewter cloth - interior
Options:
Air bags, side rail roof (AY1)
Exhaust tips, dual round, four 3" stainless (N16)
Seat adjuster, power, lumbar, driver 4-way (AL9)
Sound system, AM/FM w/ cassette and CD (U1Q)
Sunroof (CF5)
Spoiler, rear sport (D52) - I thought the GT2 came standard with a spoiler though, but this was an option at gmbuypower.com
Anything you can do with this is truly appreciated. Thanks for all your help!
(To bad there isn't a site like the gmfamilyfirst.com site for suppliers to login and do all this.)
Aug 27, 2003 (10:39 am)
GT2
• An authentic driver's car
• Antilock brakes with Enhanced Traction System
• Magnasteer variable assist steering, 16-inch aluminum wheels
• Power driver's seat, steering wheel-mounted radio controls
Exterior: Graystone Metallic
Interior: Dark Pewter Cloth
• Air bags, side roof rail, front/rear (AY1) $395.00
• Brakes, 4-wheel disc, Electronic Brake Force Distribution, antilock (JL9) $0.00
• Engine, 3.8L 3800 Series III V6 SFI, with Electronic Throttle Control (200 HP [149.2 kW]
5200 rpm, 230 lb.-ft [310.5 N-m]
4000rpm) (L26) $0.00
• Regular production accessory, Exhaust tips, | dual, round, four 3" stainless steel styled tips (SPO-supplied, dealer installed) (N16) $145.00
• Regular production accessory, Spoiler, rear Sport (SPO-supplied, dealer installed) (D52) $380.00
• Seat adjuster, power, driver 6-way (AG1) $0.00
• Seat adjuster, power, lumbar, driver, 4-way, | with Cloth interior (AL9) $130.00
• Sound system, ETR AM/FM stereo with cassette and CD player, includes Radio Data System, seek-and-scan, digital clock, auto-tone control, speed-compensated volume, TheftLock, programmable equalizer (U1Q) $100.00
• Sunroof, power (CF5) $795.00
• Transmission, 4-speed automatic, electronically controlled with overdrive (MX0) $0.00
• Wheels, 16" (40.6 cm) aluminum, 5-spoke, silver painted (QD1) $0.00
Your Vehicle: 2004 Grand Prix
Selected Style: GT2
Exterior: Graystone Metallic
Interior: Dark Pewter Cloth
Total MSRP:* $26,240.00
MSRP: $24,295.00
Color & Options: $1,945.00
Total MSRP:* $26,240.00
GMS Price:* $23,271.80
#400 of 401 Here's a ballpark GMS price:
by jasmith52
Aug 27, 2003 (10:47 am)
take the MSRP for the car ($24294) times 89 percent = $21622.55
take the options MSRP ($1945) times 86 percent = $1672.70
add em together to get $23295.25
which is within $25 of the actual GMS price.
See - you can do it yourself (pretty close) for any option combo
Aug 27, 2003 (11:13 am)
OK, got it. Thanks for all the help!