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#54 of 103 Personal Choice?!?!?
Mar 04, 2000 (7:37 pm)
Bull! Try buying a top of the line vehicle without leather! Impossible. More and more cars and trucks are being built with leather seating. I don't mind leather, but prefer the durability of cloth. Test drove an Impala last week with leather, nice. But still, I'd buy cloth if given (IF!) the option.
But, hey, if you don't like leather, the car companies will make sure to spend tons of advertizing money to convince you differently.
#55 of 103 Leather Lasts - So Does Cloth
Mar 11, 2000 (6:08 am)
Our 1990 Sable Wagon has leather seats - look like new after 180K, but cold on the rear in Manitoba winter.
My 1984 Volvo Wagon is still running with cloth seats that look like new, despite all sorts of kids, etc. - but Volvo used a really good quality fabric.
Would rather sit on cloth but leather way easier to clean. Animals probably need leather.
Do they still make vinyl or whatever it's called? Our 1969 Olds Cutlass had that, and went almost 400K and 25 years without a split in the seats.
#56 of 103 Another Voice RE: Leather vs. Cloth & Hairy Dogs
Apr 04, 2000 (3:33 pm)
I have a car with leather seats and a 50 pound dog that sheds incredibly year round (although she only rides in the car occasionally). I have not had any problems with tearing of the leather because of her nails. In the house I use the new "Swiffer" cloths (just the cloths) to pick up the dog hair - I find that these work MUCH better than a wet cloth and they are disposable.
If you decide to go with the cloth seats, I have seen a listing in one of the catalogs that I receive (I will keep looking for it, I was unable to put my hands on it for this message) a cover that is specially made to protect auto seats from pet hair/dirt. It is a satiny looking quilted material that has elasticized corners but does not require a "custom" fit as it is larger than most seats (comes in bench or bucket), the excess gets tucked in.
I haven't checke Petsmart but someplace like that may carry this item.
Apr 08, 2000 (3:55 am)
The durability is not a question, although I admit that while hanging on the back of a bike, twistin in the wind and sun and snow and other elements may not be the most pleasant way for leather to exist and can cause more than average durability problems.
Are we really talking about motorcycle saddle bags here?
Nope.... We are talking about the comfort of the interior seating of fine autos/trucks. On that point I have something thoughts to add.
Think of what other uses leather has....
Cows like it just fine.... keeps em warm in winter and cool in summer...
Same with pigs, goats, and sheep...
The finest shoes are 100% leather, why? so your feet can breathe... Ever notice how those cheap Walmart (vinyl/cloth) tennis shoes make your feet perspire?
Ever see a "real" biker wear synthetic boots?
Nope, they wear leather boots...and they pay dearly for them...
Good leather seats will allow your body to breathe by allowing moisture to wick away from your back,legs, rear...etc...Yes, Leather actually breathes and has capillary qualities.
I live in Florida, admittedly not the coldest place in the lower 48 states. But the summers can be brutal! Leather seats don't make me any hotter than cloth of a hot day. Vinyl on the other hand.... THATS a different story...
While evaluating this discussion, try to be sure that comments made about the heat generating properties of leather are not based on cheap vinyl experiences. I never saw a vinyl cow, pig, sheep or goat... And I bet that the real animals miss they're skins....
Personally, I appreciate the sacrifice that those noble cows made so that I can be comfortable and increase my re-sale value to boot...
#58 of 103 Seat Sore
Apr 28, 2000 (5:04 pm)
Sometimes you can learn from others experiences. I offer this only in that context, something to consider. I took delivery on a 1500LT xcab three weeks ago. The highback leather seat is killing me. The seat, if you are unaware of its appearance, has a protrusion at the lower end of the vertical back. This protrusion is below the Lumbar section and above the point the vertical back meets the horizontal seat. As a result of this disaster, there is no lower back/tailbone support. I'm good for about 50 miles before its get out or pass out. Of course, as fate would have it, now that I've taken delivery on the truck, I find my complaint is a common one. Everyone, save one, that I have talked too complains about the seat. So far this has amounted to twenty people or so. I am six foot six inches and weigh 260, the non-complainer was on the short side, so maybe back length has something to do with the lack of comfort. There is a local seat repair place that does warranty work for Chevy, Ford, Dodge, etc. The establishment is new in the area, relocated from New Jersey. The owner tells me the problem is common. He say's he used to do between three and five seat adjustments a week in New Jersey. The usual case is several visits before something, if ever, is accomplished that you can live with. At present, I have been back five times...with Monday as the next adjustment. The seat itself could not be constructed in a cheaper manner. Chevy does not use springs anymore, a series of wire and foam padding constitutes what the seat repair folks tell me is as cheap as you can get...hard to work with for any decent comfort, and with a probable total value of about $100 a seat. The leather seat back and seat itself come off like a slipcover, the backing of the vertical seat is 1/4 inch cardboard. That's right folks, just like cardboard boxes everywhere. Don't get me wrong folks, I'm a Chevy guy from day one, having gone through many new trucks, several cars, and two Corvettes. Never had this sort of problem before. Customer Service at GM reacted in a predictable manner: "What!!!, why we never heard of such a thing!!", sorry we can't help you out under warranty...good luck and thanks for buying Chevy. This new truck seems to be a fine piece of machinery...whose seat sucks. One other observation, dealing with internet people in buying your Truck, i.e. buy it here and I'll have it dropped off there for you...for that $300 to $500 over invoice does save bucks and is fine if you don't have any problems later. When problems appear, you will soon find yourself swinging in the wind. Hope I've helped some, you need all the info you can get before you invest the big bucks necessary these days for that new rig. In the meantime, I'll just be here making another trip to the seat adjustment folks...and swinging in the wind.
#59 of 103 To Seat Sore Lytre
Apr 30, 2000 (1:03 pm)
I am about to buy a new chevy ext cab ls w/leather. does this problem exist with the cloth seats also??? I am 6'6" also and do not need another back issue. Have had bad back for years dont need anything to make it worse! please advise.
#60 of 103 Not Bad
May 03, 2000 (12:43 am)
I'm 6'6" also. I have a 00 LT. Compared to my old '85 bench seat, this is heaven. It adjusts so many ways, it will take you a while to find the right adjustment. And if your riding for a long time, a minor adjustment and it feels good again. I haven't been in any other trucks to compare seats, just know I'm happy with these.
#61 of 103 Leather,dogs,seat comfort
May 11, 2000 (5:30 am)
I have enjoyed my black leather in the desert! Good dark window tint and a good a/c helps. And with young kids it cleans up better than cloth. Try Lexol cleaner and protector. As for dogs my German (sheader) Shepherd has not caused any damage with her weight or claws. The dog hair now all clings to the dash and the carpet.
As for new GM seats I am 6-foot and have not had any comfort problems, the beat the seats in the older 1988 C/K. I had a company truck a 96 Ford Ranger with buckets and those next to any Toyota seat are the most uncomfortable.
#62 of 103 Front Porch Philosopher
Jun 10, 2000 (12:40 pm)
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#63 of 103 In defense of cloth seats and plastic wheel covers
Jan 10, 2007 (12:01 pm)
I know leather is the cool thing to have, and bling is in for wheels.
HOWEVER, cloth is easier to maintain and won't burn you in the hot summer, and you don't have to cringe/fret/cry when you scrape your cheap plastic wheel cover against the curb!