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#789 of 1265 Year 2002 Screw
Jul 17, 2001 (4:28 pm)
Was informed by a dealer yesterday that it was too late to order a 2001 but could already order a 2002 with a 6 to 8 week delivery. No 2002 yr. literature was available, but an order printout that was given to me for consideration includes retail prices for my requested options that are identical to 2001 prices and the base price is only $30 more. This surprises me because I had always thought that next year models came at an increased cost. Could this mean that the 2002 is no different than the 2001? It occurs to me that the cash back and low financing are probably not available on 2002's and that this may constitute the difference in pricing between the two year models. Any comments would be appreciated.
Does anyone know of any web sites that already have information on the 2002 Screws? Also, am curious that there doesn't seem to be any mention of Ford F150's pitiful performance in the recent Insurance Institute Offset Crash Test in this forum. I am a Ford fan and certainly do not want to bash, but it seems that the test results would cause some concern and generate some discussion.
Thanks in advance.
#790 of 1265 HD rads, heated seats, shocks & such
Jul 17, 2001 (5:23 pm)
Picked up new Supercrew & my wife promptly loaded up the kids & luggage & drove to show her friend in Orlando! Oh well, I got to drive it home from the dealer, WOO HOO!
This thing is even nicer than I expected - way nicer than my previous F150 & older model Chevy & Toyotas.
As far as the Class III towing pkg.- I think it's a good investment for the relatively low cost. The hitch & wiring are all factory Ford installed - always a good thing if anything goes wrong later. The question about the radiator still rubs me the wrong way a little. Seems they could have avoided all this by being a little clearer in the brochure & ordering literature. If you're going to tow anything you need lights so I'd go for the factory towing pkg if cost is not a major issue. I think owners manual in mine says it's rated to tow around 7000lbs w/5.4L, 3.55 gears & 4X4 as mine is equipped. I'd go check but truck & owners manual are both gone! Mine has Off Road pkg w/HD shocks & rides very well. The truck is pretty heavy anyway so I doubt the HD shocks make a big difference in the ways it rides until you tow something.
The heated seats are available with the bench but I only saw one with this combination on the dealer lots. We wanted the bench 'cause the seats felt as comfortable as the captains chairs without the big console in the way and the power seats are really nice for getting it adjusted just right.
I wanted the aftermarket chrome 'nerf bars' instead of the factory steps but the black ones were included in the deal on mine. Just make sure that you check underneath how they're attached to the frame- the dealer didn't install all the bolts in mine so they weren't straight when I got it home but they will fix this.
Several local dealers told me they wouldn't be able to order he 2002's til early September & they do a pretty high volume - I'd seriously question a 6-8 week delivery on a 2002. They'll promise anything to get a deposit then string you along.
So far very happy with the truck & did a lot of research before final purchase.
#791 of 1265 Do a complete inspection
Jul 20, 2001 (8:57 am)
I have had my '01 Screw for two almost three weeks. Last Friday after washing the truck, I climbed into the bed to wipe off excess water from the grooves on top of the cab. I hate to pull away from the car wash bay and have the water on top stream down on the windshield. Anyhow, while I'm up there, I find a 7 1/2 inch tear along the inside groove on the passenger side.
I called my sales guy. He asks me to take pics and e-mail them to him. I did this and by the next Wednesday, I haven't heard anything. I drive two hours to the dealership only to discover that no one seems to know about my problem, the sales guy is off that day, and the service dept says all they can do is send it to a bodyshop. I made it clear that this was not an option since I had no idea of how much water has gone into the cab even before I purchased the truck.
I got a call this morning from the Service Dept. chief. He talked to the Regional Service guy from Ford and he says the only option they can offer is bodyshop repair. I just don't think I should have to take this since I wouldn't have bought the truck had I known the defect was there. It seems the tear is located where a seam should be and the sealer used to bond the metal didn't hold or whatever.
Please give your vehicle a complete inspection before you leave the lot. Top to bottom and back to front. You will not have a leg to stand on and absolutely no support from FORD if you try to take it back. I have a meeting with the regional guy next week but I don't hold out much hope.
#792 of 1265 Re:Do a complete inspection
Jul 20, 2001 (1:23 pm)
Have the dealer pull the headliner down, look for rust at the underside of the crack, also signs of mud.Make sure they "give" you a loaner, make sure they also check the side panels of the cab for water damage. see how often they high pressure cleaning their cars on the lot. push push push, the more trouble you make the more they may see its cheaper to do an exchange of trucks, call FORDS Headquarters and get a claim number. Check the speakers for damage also
#793 of 1265 cracked paint
Jul 20, 2001 (3:12 pm)
while using a chamois today I noticed an area about the size of a nickle on the hood of my '01 king ranch where the paint is starting to crackle. this truck is 6 months old and has less than 3000 miles on it.checking the warranty guide I can find no reference to the finish , only rust and perforation.would this be covered under my 3 year bumper to bumper or am I screwed? this vehicle is far from neglected, I must have polished it at least 3 times with a non abrasive silicon based (Amsoils "silicon shield")product.also while looking real close at the area in question, it appears no clear coat in this spot. so much for quality control.
#794 of 1265 Re: Complete inspection/guy21
Jul 20, 2001 (3:24 pm)
Agree with tkenny. Make some noise via Ford customer service. Doubt that the dealership will be of much help as they will just pass your complaints up the line - if they do anything at all.
Keep a log of every call you make & who you talked to about the problem. If you get nowhere through Ford channels and decide to pursue relief through other avenues your own records are critical in proving your case. Good Luck! The squeaky wheel gets the grease!
#795 of 1265 Re: cracked paint
Jul 21, 2001 (1:09 pm)
Sounds like a spot of bird crap,thats about all I can think of.I've seen it before on my old truck, could never fix it. There seems to be items going on here about the cab roof all of a sudden. And since the cab is above most people's eye level, its time to jump in the bed and start looking.
#796 of 1265 figuring the cost
Jul 21, 2001 (8:43 pm)
Glad to have found this site. After much looking and analyzing, we have decided to buy a F150 Super crew. The offset crash test is a little worrisome but the truck is a beauty and would fit our needs very nicely. We were on the lot today and looked at several 2001's. The dealer has a nicely loaded demo Lariat that my wife seems to love. MSRP=$33585, Invoice=$27901 (I/I best. charge). Using Edmunds advice, new we should be paying around $28740. However here we are late in 2001. In addition, this is a demo with 5000 miles. Does anyone have any advice on:
1) are there problems with buying a demo?; and
2) how do you figure in a deduction for mileage?
Also, I assume that rebates ($1500 in this case) and trade-ins are deducted after settling on a price? Any insight would be appreciated.
Jul 22, 2001 (12:12 pm)
keep in mind the offset crash was on a supercab, not a supercrew. the supercrew has a b pillar that the supercab doesn't. this may enhance structural integrity in an offset crash...
#798 of 1265 re: cracked paint #769
Jul 22, 2001 (9:21 pm)
Discovered a spot on the bottom of the driver side door that sounds similar to yours. Was a defect. Body shop mgr said it looked like a hair got under the paint on application. Dealership fixed it under warranty. Had to sand it down and repaint. Looks good as new.