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#730 of 1265 2000-2001 Ford F-150 4-DR. Cab crash tests by mainer2001
Jun 06, 2001 (8:18 pm)
According to www.nhtsa.dot.gov website 2000 Ford F-150 4-DR. Cab, got a Frontal 4 STAR rating. The 5 Star rating is for Side crashes.. NOT front crashes. Note the IIHS used a 2001 Ford F-150 4-DR Truck.Also the government has a note for 2001 Ford F-150 4-DR. Cab Frontal Tests, that its yet to be tested. With the Toyota Tundra. According to NHTSA the 2000 Toyota Tundra, got a 4/3 rating. 4 Stars front driver, and 3 stars for the Passenger's, and in 2001 the Toyota Tundra got a 3/3 frontal rating. Maybe the 2001 F-150 is not as good as the 2000? Werid. You would not think so but... Funny the Chevrolet Silverado Extended Cab 3/4 star front raiting, and did better in the IIHS tests.. But anyways..
The 2000 Ford F-150 4-DR cab ...
4 Star for Front Crash, 5 for Side Crash, in Government Tests,
The 2001 Ford F-150 4-DR cab. got a
Poor in IIHS Side impact test. Also to note that the Bumper test by IIHS gives the F-150 a Poor.
The IIHS has not tested the 4-DR cab for 2001 yet, but they plan to according to their site.
Tired and mixed up yet?? 
But anyway, Its Clear this is a disappointment to ford, lovers and owners of the F-150. But really there is no question that this truck should have and could have done better. After all its 2001 and Ford has been around for a very long time and should have this crash thing down by now. Really something this big should do better than that. And really there is no question why this truck cannot do well in all types of crashes. After all allot of people buy these trucks because they feel safe, but apparently it's not true in some cases. I know of an accident where a person was killed in a 2000 f-150, I have posted the story in another news group. Lets hope ford fixes the problem fast.
by the way here are the web addresses to the gov. sites.
2001 Ford F-150 4-DR. Cab
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/ncap/cars/1686.html
2000 Ford F-150 Extended Cab
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/ncap/cars/1460.html
IIHS Test on the 2001 F-150
http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/0110.htm
#731 of 1265 by emale
Jun 06, 2001 (9:04 pm)
it is kinda surprising that the f150 didn't do so well in the offset crash test, especially given the fact that almost all other ford vehicles do very well on the same test. still, i'd much rather be in an f150 in a "real world" crash vs something smaller than me!#732 of 1265 emale.......I think you've got it right. by 1949
Jun 07, 2001 (6:08 pm)
mainer2001 has an excellent and detailed post, however, there are just too many variables in a collision....physics, you know, does weird and unpredictable things. You say you'd still rather be in a full-size p/u (in this case, an F150) and yes, that does make sense. I don't believe that one brand of truck is safer than another just because brand A performed better in one specific test. Even Toyota, in its response to this test, cautions people not to OVERSIMPLIFY test results.Anyway, once all of this blows over in a week or two, everyone will be back to their favorite vehicles talking about performance and durability!!
#733 of 1265 Another Screw On Order by luckyjack
Jun 09, 2001 (6:42 pm)
After much research (including much valuable info from this board) and several test drives, placed order for my Screw last night:4x4, 5.4L, tow pack, limited slip, skid plates and trailer tow group in Toreador Red.
I had been considering Dakota and Tundra, but by chance found out just a few days ago that I can purchase with Ford -plan. So, although I still spent more than I would have on the others, I couldn't pass up several hundred dollars below dealer cost... plus got the 2.9% interest rate. The F-150 was my first choice anyway when I started researching what to get when my 6 years in a Camry come to an end in July. (I think the V6 Camry is a great car by the way.) The -plan option just made it an offer I couldn't refuse!
Cost of vehicle as above: $28,425.28. To that add state tax and $150 registration/title fee. But dealer waives usual document fees of $167.50 on -plan.
One comment for potential buyers. When I went to the dealer with my list of desired options, I had expected to opt for the captains chairs. Turned out, they didn't have any in stock with that option, so I drove the "bench" seat. When I realized that the bench was more like two bucket seats and that the center section folded down to make a perfect height armrest and a good size center console...plus still the option of lifting that console for room for 3 in front... couldn't think of a good reason to pay over $400 for captains chairs. I'm sure those who have em love em, but I think the bench is the best of both worlds. Hope this helps those of you still looking.
Now I just have to hold on 'til delivery day!
#734 of 1265 Re: Screw on order by atlanta4
Jun 10, 2001 (2:16 am)
Luckyjack -Was that a Lariat or XLT for 28400? Sounds like a nice truck & I agree on the bench seat being the best of both worlds. I'm on the verge of passing on my order for a white Lariat 4x2 in favor of a red Lariat 4x4 already on my dealer lot but the dealer invoice (and Edmunds)says $31200 (w/5.4, towing, off road pkg,leather bench). I can get 2.9% & $1000 rebate but dealer wont budge on the invoice. I sure would like the 4x4 though!
#735 of 1265 LuckyJack & Atlanta4 by 1949
Jun 10, 2001 (6:38 am)
LuckyJack....you did great on the SCrew pricing. Yes!! I absolutely love that unique bench/bucket seat. The center fold-down is perfect. So much so, I'm surprised the buckets aren't std and the bench an option....looks great in leather, too. BTW, are you a Ford employee? What's with the -plan financing? I'm assuming yours is an XLT since you can't get that color w/Lariat, only the bright red. I'm selling my '98 Prelude (Also a great car) this month and will buy either a SCrew or Tundra Limited....at the moment, they're both neck-in-neck with with me. Did the dealer by chance mention when the deadline is to order if what you want isn't in stock? How long before delivery?Atlanta4....you also mention 2.9%..is that for short-term (24 mo.) financing? I'm in San Antonio and have noticed that depending on what part of the USA you live in, the incentives may be different. I'm looking at a 2WD/Lariat/5.4/limited-slip/Moonroof/sliding rear window in 2-tone color. Although I also like the Tundra Limited, I can get more bang for my buck with the Lariat, plus size and a bit nicer styling.
#736 of 1265 LuckyJack's Screw by luckyjack
Jun 10, 2001 (8:03 am)
I see I forgot to indicate the model. It's XLT.Since I was on X-plan, didn't have any negotiating on price. Dealer (Central NJ by the way) seemed pretty honest about pricing and said they generally don't sell Screws much less than $800 - $1000 over invoice. That's a bit higher than Edmund's TMV suggests...but not much.
Maybe a really good negotiator could get dealer down to $500 over invoice if the dealer is also motivated, i.e. move a unit off the lot, etc..
#737 of 1265 To: 1949 by luckyjack
Jun 10, 2001 (8:28 am)
I'm not a Ford Employee. (If I was, I could buy on the A-plan...even better than X-plan.)I don't know exactly how the A-plan price is set (it's set by Ford) but it looks to me like the A-plan price is around 6% below dealer invoice. A very nice deal.
The X-plan is available to company's that have some kind of "relationship" with Ford. My employer is a Fortune 500 property/casualty insurance company. I don't know exactly what our relationship to Ford is. Maybe all our fleet cars are Fords, or maybe we insure some significant part of the Ford empire...I just don't know.
Anyway, X-plan pricing is 4% above A-plan. So for instance, my dealer just read the A-plan price off of his computer printout/invoice and then used his trusty desk calculator to multiply A-plan times 1.04...and that gives the X-plan price, which is what I paid. All the options get the same treatment. I figure net result in my case was around $500 below dealer cost.
Dealer didn't mention the deadline for ordering 2001 Screws...but it must be close. (For instance, the deadline has passed for ordering 2001 Escapes).
Delivery time as indicated 6-8 weeks. He said he wouldn't know much of anything on status for 4 weeks, so I'll start checking with him in a month.
In NJ, the 2.9% is available up to 36 months.
#738 of 1265 Thank you luckyjack by 1949
Jun 10, 2001 (9:08 am)
I appreciate the info you shared. BTW, locally, the Ford dealers have tons of SCrews, but most are bare bones 2WD XLTs. They're selling for $400 over invoice (Including Lariat). I don't know about the NJ area, but down here everybody and his brother drives pickups and SUVs, so prices are competitive. Enjoy your new truck when it arrives. I've never experienced it, but I hear your winters can be brutal. Your truck should arrive in time to enjoy last part of Summer. Oh okay, I just realized why you're getting 4WD...the SNOW!! Forgive me, I'm in mild-weathered Texas where we don't need 4WD, unless you work the farm or ranch. Anyway...enjoy!!#739 of 1265 1949 re:SCrew by atlanta4
Jun 10, 2001 (10:24 am)
We live in Atlanta & 2.9% is available up to 36 months for any dealer in this area. We looked at several dealers & found found the best deal at Vernie Jones Ford (about 30 miles north of Atlanta) in Jasper (706)692-6467, www.vjford.comTheir price is $99 over invoice. I brought the invoice price from this website & it matched theirs (wish I could get that "plan" price that luckyjack mentioned). They don't try to slip any "doc fees" or any of the other typical dealer phoney baloney in on you on top of the quoted price so I was pleased with the experience. Area dealers have tons of SCrews and mostly fully loaded Lariats so you could probably find what you want if you don't mind a days drive & want to skip the 6-8 week wait. We wanted the leather bench but not the moonroof so had to look around to find the right combination. Really don't need the 4X4 here either except some areas we go for mountain biking. BTW -I looked briefly at the Tundra but felt the SCrew was much more capable for carrying family of 4 plus bikes, dog, camper, etc. Good Luck with your decision.
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