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#541 of 1265 price negotiation
Mar 01, 2001 (12:46 pm)
Want to arrive at a fair offering price for a 2001 ford f150 xlt 4wd super crew which will be ordered. Is it customary these days for the dealer to fill the fuel tank for no charge? Should a buyer reasonably expect to pay a $260 FDAF Assessment (advertising fee) and $100 over invoice for an ordered vehicle when dealer's hold back would be 100% profit? The first dealer that I have contacted is asking for the advertising fee, $100 over invoice, and $19 for 10 gal of gasoline.
Thanks in advance for any comments.
Mar 01, 2001 (2:11 pm)
If I am not mistaken, $19 comes as a price that is on the sticker, and comes from the factory like that. But, when I picked my truck up from the dealer back in Aug. it did have a full tank and I don't remember ever discussing it with the dealer. I was happy none-the-less. I believe the advertising fee is from the manufacture and is none beg.
#543 of 1265 free gas
Mar 01, 2001 (2:16 pm)
The last two Ford trucks I purchased,a 99 superduty and an 01 screw ,came from the dealer with full tanks of gas.That $19(mine was $20.50) for "10 US gal gas factory" is what the vehicle gets upon rolling off the assembly line.In fact, the Ford cust svc questionaires I have received from the corporate level even ask if the dealer had given the "complimentary" tank of gas.The fact that the factory even charges for the 10 gals seems kind of petty to me considering that I am buying a $35000+ vehicle.Bean counters always win out.
#544 of 1265 Re: Screw vs. Dakota QC
Mar 01, 2001 (2:58 pm)
Your story is very similar to mine. I too am 6' however I found the Dakota QC (with 6 way power seat) to be quite comfortable with still a little room to move back if needed. The Screw was less comfortable but I figure it was because it was a bench seat. But I did feel more at home in the Dakota. I didn't want this to happen because my heart was set on the Screw. I'd been eying the Screw for some time and was convinced it was the truck for me.
When I sarted getting serious I found a dealer that would order me a Screw for invoice. With the options I wanted, this came to a little over $30k. After tax, advertising, and destination was added it was closer to $33k. This is when I started to look at the Dakota (though reluctantly) becuase deep down I knew I just couldn't quite afford the Screw.
I quickly fell in love with this truck. The new 4.7l can flat out move. Much quicker than the 5.4 on the screw. And after re-evaluating my needs I realized I really didn't need the size and towing of the Screw and that the Dakota would do nicely. So just as I had read all the previous posts here (see post #497) I started to go through the posts on the Dakota Quad, 2000+. I too was very concerned with Dodge's reliability, and like you Bryan I plan on keeping this truck for 10+ years also.
So to finish my long winded story, I have ordered a Dakota Quad Cab 4x4 very nicely equiped.
With the $2000 rebate and $500 Farm Bureau coupon (for being a member for at least 30 days, $40 cost) I will be paying just less than invoice, even with tax, advertising, destination and prep. So for me it became a question of $26k vs $33k.
The Dodge rebate is good whether you order or buy from the lot. Shop another dealer if they insist on the rebate for stock only. I committed to 2% over invoice ($500), should have worked harder on this. I ordered the Dakota on 2/21 and it is scheduled to be shipped on 3/5. Figure 2 weeks by rail and the whole time from order to arrival is about 4-5 weeks.
Anyway, I wish you the best on what ever truck you decide to get. Different strokes for different folks I quess. If I had the extra $$ I would have probably stuck with the Screw but it would have been a much tougher decision.
#545 of 1265 Trucks vs Front Wheel drive in snow
Mar 02, 2001 (6:47 am)
I have owned several 2x4 trucks and several front wheel drives. I used to live in Iowa, Wisconsin, and Indiana, snow belt area. I lived on the middle of a hill. When there was fresh snow or ice, I could not get the truck, Ranger, up the street. I had to drive to the bottom of the hill and back up. Works well in a quite neighborhood, but not on a busy street. If 4x4 is not an option because of money, I would go with the front wheel drive.
There's always chains, but they can do a lot of damage if not put on right and checked often. They are also illegal in some states, like Indiana. That didn't stop me from buying them and using them, but I always stopped and took them off prior to getting out on the busy streets.
#546 of 1265 Super Crew Gen. I, Gen II, Gen III
Mar 02, 2001 (8:29 am)
I am interested in getting a super crew soon. I have noticed in seveal posting on several sites the mention of Gen I, Gen II, and Gen III models. I know that the interior has been changed/improved since they first came out. The change seemed to be around the Sept. and October 2000 production dates. What is the Gen III change? Or what does the Gens I, II, III refer to? Thanks!
Mar 02, 2001 (8:49 am)
I believe the gen 1,2,3 refers to the designation of model changes for the dodge dakota.
I am not sure which years the designations refer to.
I do know the current model dakota is gen 3.
#549 of 1265 Gen I, II, III
Mar 02, 2001 (10:12 am)
SuperCrews, too, have three generations already, though small differences. Most now are what us Screw owners call the GenIII. What this means is a very different interior than GenI or II. Instead of the captain's chairs having skinny little armrests, for example, there's a beefier center console upon which to rest your arms. Little things like that. See f150online.com, and search under the dedicated SuperCrew thread, for more info.
#550 of 1265 More on Gen III
Mar 02, 2001 (10:13 am)
I almost forgot. One of the biggest differences is that the Gen III's got rear seat head rests.