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#1216 of 1265 F-150 SCREW v 1500HD v 1500 Quad Cab
Jul 01, 2003 (5:36 am)
We're currently in the market for an affordable pickup and will be purchasing by the end of the week. Price is the primary concern. Due to the lack of availability of 4x2 1500HD's, we're currently leaning towards the F-150 SuperCrew.
We'll be using the pickup as a daily driver as well as a weekend hauler for a 6300 pound boat and trailer. Twice per year the truck will serve as the vehicle for a 600-mile road trip towing a 1500 pound trailer and a family of four down the East Coast from Maryland to South Carolina.
I've been helping my dad pick out the right truck and its been a struggle to convince him to see the light on a 5.4L V8 over a 4.6L V8 though I think I've been successful in that regard. However, 4WD isn't going to happen as he sees it as an unneccessary expense.
We're looking to find a truck for $25,000 or less after rebates and everything. What can we expect to pay for these trucks? Is Edmunds.com TMV pricing accurate, or is paying Invoice minus rebates reasonable, or do these trucks go for Less Than Invoice minus rebates?
Please share views on the Ford v Chevy v Dodge **for our application and finances** as well as recommendations on worthwhile options and engine choices, etc.
Jul 03, 2003 (8:19 pm)
I looked at the 1500HD trucks from GM... all of the units were 4x4 and I do not need a 4x4. I have owned GM vehicles for decades.
The salepeople would yap about increased resale value and I would tell them about decreased MPG and higher repair costs for something I did not want.
We bought a 2001 Super Crew with a 5.4 engine. This was the FIRST Ford I ever bought(I'll be 50 years old soon). Not one single problem with it in 34k miles.
Last tank was at 16.3 MPG.
As I recall the 5.4 motor also includes a slightly higher GVW rating for the truck.
Jul 07, 2003 (7:21 am)
I purchased a 02 supercrew and on the sticker it said the truck had a 6500# GVW package. The sales person did not know what it meant. I think this is the weight of the vehicle am I correct? What does this package include? Or do you know where I can find more info on this package?
Jul 07, 2003 (12:00 pm)
the weight of the vehicle including cargo capacity.
#1220 of 1265 New Ford truck owner
Jul 08, 2003 (5:51 pm)
I just brought a new Ford F-150 Super Crew XLT 4x4 two weeks with 59 miles. I had a 2000 Expedition XLT 2x4 and I am glad that I traded in that SUV. Can someone anwser two questions for me, is this truck longer than my former Expedition, because I find it harder to park this truck. What types of problems that are commom to this vehicle, thanks for any replies.
#1221 of 1265 Performance for my new 03 SC 5.4 2wd
Jul 20, 2003 (12:30 am)
Does anyone know if this "Tornado" air system works? It is supposed to "swirl" the air coming in from the intake to make the engine more efficient i.e. (mileage and horsepower). I replaced the stock filter with a (K & N) high flow air filter. I am also thinking of going to a high flow exhaust system that sounds deeper, but not to loud. Mainly I am looking for better mileage.
Jul 20, 2003 (10:06 am)
IMHO you will get better value with your money by throwing on the ground and watch some ppl fight over it than the tornado..
Local hi-way patrol(AZ) tested this thing. a small report on TV was "mixed" results. This means NFG to me. As a mechanic I see no value in the placement of the tornado designed item in the intake.
Same deal with the billet aluminum spacers that bolt in between the engine and throttle body with grooves machined in them. On Fords they seem to whistle for some reason.
I have a K&N replacement filter in our 2001 Super Crew 4x2,5.4 engine, no exhaust add on ect. The mileage was high 14's when new. At 34k miles the unit just gave us 16.7 mpg.
I use synthetic motor oil by choice. I have been a mechanic, racer, restoration type person for decades and I like syn oils.
I do not know if the mileage claims are true with syn oils.
Next: I also own a 2000 1500 Silverado 4x2, 5.3 engine, xtra-cab. I have used an exhaust cat back system with an AirAid intake/filter setup. The ONLY place I see increased power & mileage is when the truck is hooked up to my car trailer.
Normal day - day driving show'd no improvement on MPG in the chevy .
Best thing for better MPG is intelligent driving and keep your tires air'd up correctly. Keep the spare air'd up too! A flat spare tire when you have a flat is no fun , but I don't want to talk about it.... LOL
#1223 of 1265 Re: Tornado
Jul 22, 2003 (3:15 pm)
The thing called a "Tornado" has been around since the 1940s. Back before the induction system of an automobile engine became a true science, this little device probably could decrease fuel consumption.
The theory is that the little fan blades rotate, interupt some of the fuel droplets and break them into still smaller droplets. This can increase fuel density and subsequently fuel distribution and volumetric efficiency in an otherwise marginal design. In more up to date carburetor systems, these little creatures have cause hesitation complaints, especially has fuel mixtures became leaner.
In a modern system fuel delivery system, especially throttlebody fuel injection versions, I would be hard pressed to believe that you would gain any efficiency. Modern intake manifold designs are very, very effective in producing small fuel droplet sizes. Disturbing the factory design flow characteristics will change something, probably to the detriment of engine performance somewhere in the operating range.
In a port injected system you'll see nothing but a loss.
#1225 of 1265 2003 King Ranch Wet Carpet
Jul 23, 2003 (7:48 am)
Was advised by my dealership yesterday that Ford is aware of a design problem with the A/C plenum forming condensation on its exterior and subsequently soaking the front passenger carpet. (sneaks under the mat.. so its hard to spot unless you feel underneath)Ford apparently has no current plan to remedy.
Ever heard of mildew, mold, and stinky carpet/padding? $40k plus vehicle that comes standard with these features. Nice bonus.
Any feedback from others and their wet super crew mats?