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#7 of 46 cdean by cdean

Jul 07, 1998 (5:42 am)

you're right, but oh, at what price?

#8 of 46 cdean by cdean

Jul 07, 1998 (5:43 am)

ooops,


i was going to say, remember the diesels of old that were very cost effective to buy, and lasted forever, they just didn't have quite the horsepower they do now.

#9 of 46 mharde2 by mharde2

Jul 08, 1998 (1:54 am)

 If the power war continues, and GM can jump in there somewhere, its exciting to think how far they can go. They are already capable of enough power to twist a pick up into a pretzel.

#10 of 46 cdean by cdean

Jul 08, 1998 (6:20 am)

thats what kinda of scares me as my truck hits about midlife, and i start thinking what i will do within the next 5 or 6 years. to make a truck with that much power costs money, and costs even more money to make the truck able to handle all the power. for those of us who don't want it all, it makes it very expensive. i'm sure everyone doesn't want all these airbags, and anti locks, and cd players and leather stuff, but those out there who do want it have sure made it expensive. the diesel market has done the same thing. everyone wants a powerstroke or cummins and is willingly to pay between 4 and 5 thousand for an engine alone, well they're going to make all the can, and make a new on even more powerful and more expensive.

#11 of 46 Brutus by Brutus

Jul 08, 1998 (1:04 pm)

Maybe we will see two types of diesels, a heavy duty and a light duty. Navistar is working on a diesel for the other Ford trucks, like the Explorer. That can't be the same diesel that goes into a full size F-Series. That might keep costs down some. On the options issue, you can still buy a basic F-Series without the CD, leather, power everything for thousands less than an XLT or Lariat model. I think the key for the manufacturers is to continue to offer as much of a selection as possible, so they don't price too many people out of the market.

#12 of 46 rsholland by rsholland

Jul 08, 1998 (3:18 pm)

cdean & brutus


The dealers generally don't make it easy for those who want choice. True, those vehicles are available, but you probably will have to order it from the factory if you want specific items. I think most dealers (unless you go to a "truck only" dealer) stock vehicles with a lot of luxury items, hoping that the customer will (A) be seduced by that stuff, and (B) the customer finds it easier (and certainly quicker) to buy something right off the lot.


Bob

#13 of 46 Brutus by Brutus

Jul 08, 1998 (9:33 pm)

Good point. "Why not finance this vehicle with all the options for one year longer and still get the same monthly payment, rather than order and wait a couple of months on a truck that won't be near as fun to drive." At the same time, I am surprised at how many two wheel drive F-150XL model trucks I see on the road here in the DFW metroplex.

#14 of 46 P.S. by Brutus

Jul 08, 1998 (9:35 pm)

I have to admit that I'm spoiled by all of the options available. I'm not even sure that I would remember how to manually roll a window up. It's, kind of, like I'm not sure I would know how to change the channel on my tv if I lost the remote control. Technology!

#15 of 46 richflynn@yahoo.com by richflynn

Jul 17, 1998 (12:44 am)

I think that Brutus said it very well. As a creature that appreciates comfort, I don't mind the few extra bucks for the comfort.


Besides, the goodies make the vehicle acceptable for quite a few years longer. Typically I would trade my stripped down vehicles every two to three years. Once I realized how little the goodies cost, my vehicles became comfortable and usable for much longer. Now I'm going 6 & 7 years between new vehicles.


Rich

#16 of 46 bigfur by bigfur

Jul 17, 1998 (4:16 am)

one other question, this is a biggy. Do i get the auto or the six-speed?

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