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#17 of 46 Transmission by stanford

Jul 17, 1998 (2:16 pm)

Do you do any city driving? During the week, my 350 is used for daily commutes between Dallas and Plano (25 miles each way). With the 5 speed (and never using 1st unless towing) the limited rev band of the diesel really gets annoying (especially with the 4.10s). I'm opting for the automatic and 3.73s next time.

#18 of 46 Brutus by Brutus

Jul 19, 1998 (5:47 am)

I swear by stick shifts. I like the ability to select when I shift and not to have to worry about the truck hunting for a gear, especially in climbs. However, having spent the past five years in Southern CA and now in Dallas traffic, I have to admit the auto is the way to go. A stick in stop and go traffic is no fun on a regular basis. I went with the auto on my new truck. I'm still concerned about it hunting for gears in the mountains under the load of the new 3000+ pound camper I will be putting on it.

#19 of 46 kcram by kcram HOST

Jul 19, 1998 (5:40 pm)

Brutus,


if the new 4R100 lives up to its billing, you should be able to hand-shift that as well as the E4OD. Ford, to their credit, still uses a "2 only" position on the HD automatics, instead of the "2" being 1-2. I hand-shift my 47RE in my Ram quite a bit, and it works pretty well against the diesel.

#20 of 46 cdean by cdean

Jul 20, 1998 (1:40 am)

these folks have got there stuff together, at least on transmission performance, if not yet longevity. almost all of today's new trannies don't do the "searching" for gears you fear. the only time you may get an unusual shift is when maybe you do something to the throttle at the same time the load changes or something out of the ordinary. i think you made a good choice, Brutus.

#21 of 46 paul4 by paul4

Jul 20, 1998 (1:46 am)

has anyone heard any reliable fuel mileage comparisons between the cummins and powerstroke in normal everyday driving without a heavy load?

#22 of 46 pat4 by pat4

Jul 20, 1998 (3:27 am)

I have had terrible experiences with my E4OD tranny while backing my rig ( ford f-250 diesel) into an uphill camping spot while hitched to my 5th wheel trailer. Since it does not lock up in reverse and the tranny ratio is about 2.3 in reverse the heat generated is great and immediate. I have installed the largest cooler I could find but have not tested it yet. I would appreciate any comments. As a result I am considering a manual tranny in the future. Ford's new 6 speed manual seems like it may be a good choice.

#23 of 46 Rocles by Rocles

Jul 23, 1998 (4:52 am)

 I don't see anyone bringing up that dog from GM. Hey guys! Wake up! Ford and Dodge knew where to get competent machines. Once again, the company with the most divisons shows the others that they need not envy anymore.

#24 of 46 kcram by kcram HOST

Jul 23, 1998 (5:31 pm)

Roc,


This goes back to the whole outsourcing thing. Chrysler and Ford went out and bought suitable engines from experienced diesel manufacturers. GM made the 6.2 in house - and don't let anyone lie and tell you the 6.2/6.5 is a Detroit Diesel. The engine was transferred to DD from Chevrolet during the mid-80s division reorganization, then the engine was returned when DD was sold to Penske.


Had they wanted to, GM could have asked Detroit to make a good diesel - a lot of old C/K owners have plopped the 6V53 turbo in their trucks with great results.

#25 of 46 cdean by cdean

Jul 23, 1998 (11:47 pm)

they only have problems with keeping front tires from wearing out because of the engine weight!

#26 of 46 Rocles by Rocles

Jul 25, 1998 (5:12 am)

kcram,
 So Detroit is under Penske? I didn't know that. Right on about outsourcing; I just wish that the UAW would see it to. Gotta save the 20% that aren't worth a damn but lining the Bosses pockets. Sometimes I don't see too many differences between a cult and unions in the way their following behaves.
 Question about "being returned". Returned the engine back to Detroit or GM?

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